Ok guys I need to know this.

What you think is the reason why raves died? Is it the rise of Club scene? Commercialisation of EDM? I mean Hippies are gone too.

Was having this convo in other thread: Even if rave scene was alive today, I woudnt be going there. Not that I despise drugs or something; but rather I would prefer to do it indoors in nice comfy club than sweating it out outdoors clutching to my bottle of water.

Rave culture was pretty stupid, people realised it and thats what killed raves.

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It was just your usual fragmentation I think. Seems everyone to this day has differing opinions of what rave was and what it should be. What I think happened is at one point all these people went to these things and kinda embraced each other's differences, but eventually after the popularity was large enough they all fragmented off into their own little subniche's. Maybe when interest was low all these different people had no choice but to get along together, but when there were enough people the crowds started branching off into their own different flavors of partying. Kinda like what happened to rock music after elvis, people all took it in different directions.

From what I've read it seems the general theme of these raves was a chaotic environment were anything was permittied to happen and all kinds of strange new ideas were explored, In that sense I don't think that rave is dead because some people surely still do this kind of thing, maybe it is not the same as it was before, but by definition it couldn't be, how can one explore new ideas and have it the same as it was 10 years ago?

But it is a combination of many things that killed rave, fragmentation, persecution by the law, commercialization, popularity, vanity, everyone had their own reasons for quitting it seems.

The scene is still alive, it's just changing, slowly. It needs to merge with psychedelic and post rock already. Less 'IDM' and clubs and hipsters, clubs are drunken money factories and by going to them you support the consumer whore culture.

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Electronic music killed the rave scene.

it's still alive. we call any party/club night/outdoor event a "rave" here

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not such a thing round here

well in eastleigh anyway (for those willing to bash me)

most rock and chavs n shit

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In UK mostly because younger people are more interested in different sorts of music. As the usual crowd got older there wasnt a new generation came through in any number. That straddled with the usual crowd not being able to hack taking drugs every week and the quality of music going down people just lost the zest to go all the time.

But we do still make the effort every now and then and there are some really good nights around in the UK but they ar not as big and 'advertised' like the way cream and gatecrasher were.

As long as there is some sort of scene around people will go but just not in the same numbers, until a flood of new interested youths come through.

Raves died around here cause of the drugs. We still have 18+ events though so they haven't died completely, there's just not near as many of them then say 99'.

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what killed raves was simply time....

every generation has something defining about it...


and a following generation that tries to duplicate some aspects in vain

Those weird people who go to raves wearing cacky shorts and semi-formal polo shirts.

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Originally posted by paranoik0 it's still alive. we call any party/club night/outdoor event a "rave" here

Yeah... the scene is still alive.

You want a real good party? Check out the psy parties in the woods/desert... good times.