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Q5echo
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Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Dallas
You Ready for This?

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June 23, 2006
Bank Data Sifted in Secret by U.S. to Block Terror
By ERIC LICHTBLAU and JAMES RISEN


WASHINGTON, June 22 — Under a secret Bush administration program initiated weeks after the Sept. 11 attacks, counterterrorism officials have gained access to financial records from a vast international database and examined banking transactions involving thousands of Americans and others in the United States, according to government and industry officials.
The program is limited, government officials say, to tracing transactions of people suspected of having ties to Al Qaeda by reviewing records from the nerve center of the global banking industry, a Belgian cooperative that routes about $6 trillion daily between banks, brokerages, stock exchanges and other institutions. The records mostly involve wire transfers and other methods of moving money overseas and into and out of the United States. Most routine financial transactions confined to this country are not in the database.

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hey, the man said he'd do anything to protect his country. this is incredible.

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Sunsnail
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Yes, Im watching CSPAN about this right now actually

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Q5echo
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Location: Dallas

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Originally posted by Sunflower
Yes, Im watching CSPAN right now actually

you have no life either huh? i kid.

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LazFX
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Registered: Aug 2004
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Wow!!! I wonder if I am in there, I mean I by a shite load of vinyl from over seas.... I guess this means as well as credit card transactions or just big monies...

That one record store in Syria ALWAYS HAS THE CHOICE TUNES... ha ha

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josh4
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Location: New York City

Between the NSA looking at the phone calls and now the bank data and everything else you'd expect them to have produced results with it by now. I mean this program in particular has been going on since 2001 and as far as we know has produced zero results.

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Freedom should be sacrificed in the name of freedom. Any pinko who complains should stop reading so much George Orwell.


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MisterOpus1
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Kansas City
Re: You Ready for This?

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Originally posted by Q5echo
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hey, the man said he'd do anything to protect his country. this is incredible.


Well I know how you feel about the wiretapping issue, so am I to gather that you feel the same about this issue, or is this starting to get a little bit wierd for you yet?


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occrider
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Does this mean I have to cancel my order of midget porn from Thailand?

I have nothing to worry about unless I'm a terrorist, right? Right?

So anyway, now that library books, phone calls, and bank records are checked off the list, we should have a poll to see what privacy issue gets attacked next.

Internet use
Credit cards
Purchases at the store
Which way we wipe our asses

I dunno, I can kind of see the government being interested in all of them.


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Groundhog Boy
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Registered: May 2005
Location: New York, NY

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Does this mean I have to cancel my order of midget porn from Thailand?

I have nothing to worry about unless I'm a terrorist, right? Right?

So anyway, now that library books, phone calls, and bank records are checked off the list, we should have a poll to see what privacy issue gets attacked next.

Internet use
Credit cards
Purchases at the store
Which way we wipe our asses

I dunno, I can kind of see the government being interested in all of them.

Next??? They're already doing that one, too. Just look at the google subpoenas or the class action lawsuit affidavit described in this thread - http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=353906


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occrider
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Oops I thought that thread was just about wiretapping. Missed the internet use part. I guess that's one less area we have to worry about being attacked then ...


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Q5echo
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Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Dallas
Re: Re: You Ready for This?

quote:
Originally posted by MisterOpus1
Well I know how you feel about the wiretapping issue, so am I to gather that you feel the same about this issue, or is this starting to get a little bit wierd for you yet?

well. since you will never be able to begin to find anything illegal about this, let me put it to you this way woman...
quote:
It's blackmail, pure and simple. Either let a Democrat into the White House, or we will continue to sabotage American security and, in effect, kill Americans. We will keep secrets when a Democrat is in office, but not a Republican. So we offer the American people a choice: Let the politicians we favor run the country, or we will help Al Qaeda murder you.

go wipe your vagina.

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MisterOpus1
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Re: Re: Re: You Ready for This?

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Originally posted by Q5echo
well. since you will never be able to begin to find anything illegal about this, let me put it to you this way woman...
go wipe your vagina.


Hmmm, it is interesting how when confronted with an issue, someone as interesting as yourself feels such an undying desire to challenge the manhood of others with differing views.

It's okay, sweetie, when certain self-projections like this occur with yourself. If for some reason you are having some personal issues with your own sexual identity, please understand I have absolutely no problem with it at all. It certainly may not be my own cup of tea, but as a homegrown Democrat and liberal I do very well accepting others who have differing viewpoints on sexual orientation.

Now with that said, am I to gather that given your statement from yet another Powerline quote (http://powerlineblog.com/archives/014499.php), you continue to have no problem with this infringement on our liberties and privacy, all in the name of fighting the "war on terra"?

And incidentally, do you by chance happen to read anything else outside the silly wingnut blogs like Powerline? I love a good liberal blog as much as the next Lefty, but my goodness I do try to limit my reading of those and do my best to balance it out with normal newspapers from time to time.


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