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Push2005
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Registered: Oct 2004
Location: Belgium
Artist albums (Mixed, edited, sequenced)

I'm honestly really sick of seeing artist albums of some good producers being mixed, edited or sequenced. What's the point really?
They're not compilations, are they?

Since most of the people here still buy music(legally), I'd like to ask who actually prefers artist albums to be like this...

Maybe some discussion might hopefully change the current trend. I'm really not buying anything anymore when cd's are just this way.

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Magistrate
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strange you open this topic, i never saw you complain about it in album threads

Old Post Jul-27-2006 13:22  Belgium
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RebeL9
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Gothenburg, Sweden

albums should NEVER be sequenced or edited. The worst is when tunes on an album is edited down to fit on a CD. that is pure blasphemy . I remember Bonzai always edited down their tunes on their compilations


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SYSTEM-J
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I dislike albums that are mixed like a set, IE: constant beatmatching, because it's just lazy and a crime against CDJs. However, albums where the tracks meld into each other while still existing in their entirity are excellent.


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THE_Chris
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Ireland

I dont mind the beginning and ending few seconds of a track being melded to give a bit of continuity, thats fine, as long as it is JUST a few seconds.

Edits on an album are a complete joke, that should never happen nor even be considered for an album.

Mixed artist albums are a joke too.

Why cant they all do it like the psy compilations? How often do you see a psy/progpsy artist album that ISNT full length unsequenced unmixed DJ friendly tracks?


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Sykonee
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Registered: Dec 2004
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Yeah, but... all the L.S.G. albums are continuously mixed. Don't mind 'em.


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THE_Chris
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Registered: Apr 2002
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Oh BTW I have seen a few psy compilations which do a sane thing along those lines.

CD1 is mixed.
CD2 is the same tracks, but unmixed.

Best of both worlds.


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skip
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Registered: Sep 2002
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i fucking hate mixed/sequenced/edited albums. IMO 99,99% of them just fucking suck very bad. i've left so fucking many cds in the store because of edits/mixing/sequencing. IMO they're a waste of money.


p.s.
i made a topic about this some years ago and got pretty much flamed to death because of it. i guess most people here love radio edits, crappily mixed artist albums and abruptly cut tunes.


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In most cases i don't like mixed/sequenced/edited artist albums at all but occasionally they work nicely, like L.S.G. albums as mentioned or BT's Movement In Still Life for example but those are only a few exceptions which i don't mind being continuously mixed. Edits then again definitely are a no no and should be left on the singles for radio play or for those who can't stand longer intros and outros but not on the albums. Editing a few seconds is tolerable but several minutes is not, then the track kinda loses its idea if shortened down to a fraction of its original length.

There should be artist albums and mix CDs but separately, not combined as one. When i buy an album i don't need to hear how good his/her/their DJ skills are as DJ mix CDs are purposed for that or how many more tracks can be fitted on the album if edited or mixed, commercial mix CDs are for that. All i need is to hear what productions the artist has done and preferably in full length.

PS. Compilations i have always thought as being unmixed and mix cds, mixed. D'oh!


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Mr.Mystery
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Registered: Dec 2001
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The thing is, most trance "artist albums" are more or less compilations. None of the tracks were originally intended for an album and therefore they have to be cut and edited so they can fit as much crap there as they can.

An album should be a well thought-out package (which, IMO, sequencing is a crucial part of) instead of just some tunes slapped together. Most trance albums are just a collection of singles.

I think it would be better if most trance artists just wouldn't do albums because the tracks just aren't meant to be released like that and the result is just awful most of the time.


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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
The thing is, most trance "artist albums" are more or less compilations. None of the tracks were originally intended for an album and therefore they have to be cut and edited so they can fit as much crap there as they can.


Very true.


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rustyryan
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Registered: Mar 2006
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yea .. continuous mixing really gets on my nerves. I want it to be the same as buying the track on vinyl as if I want to play it in a set. The number of people who probably care about it is (i'm guessing) limited to the dj population, which is probably why it is so common, because it's such a small subset of the general EDM CD buying population.


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