My friend just got some TT's and my other friend was always interested in them.. so was I but i need the room and money for them .

Anyways what are some quick tips for beatmatching? THey both don't know really anyhting about it and are learning, what i want to do is go to his house and beatmatch something(it will sound like shit, i know i know) but the bigger point is i would like to tell them the tips you gave me so he can get better.
I heard you should get 2 of the same record, learn how to count beats, and maybe get a BPM counter for the first coupld of months

anything would be nice, thanks

I'm no expert by all means, but i can beatmatch (just not as fast as others) .. here is some tips from my experiances..

record 1 - hit play
record 2 - grab the first beat and rock it back and fourth, drop this beat on the first beat of a bar on record 1. This is an important part. If you droppped it right, the beats will be on for atleast a split second.

Now the hard part is telling wich one drifts away, but if you keep doing it, you will train your ears, and it will become a second nature. I still screw up alot (adjusting the pitch the wrong way), but i am getting alot better. A good thing to do, is set record 2 like maybe +2 more then record one. And move the pitch down as you rub the side of the platter with your finger. I find it alot easier to slow down a record then to push the label (you usually push to much) ..

On another note, headphone monitoring is important. For me, i find playing the cued record in one ear, and matching it to the live/monitor speakers. While you are doing this, if it is matched (to me anyhow), it seems the bass in earphone either cancels or is very low allowing you only to hear the bass coming out of the monitor speakers. Once you got it on, listen, and when it starts drifing , adjust accordingly. Thats all i can say, i find it hard to explain. check out http://www.recess.co.uk , there is alot of good tips there.

Hope that helps.. Interact with people on here, and if you know anyone that spins, get them to show you in person.. i never had anyone to show me, and i am doing pretty good.. lots of practise.

Oh yeah. lots of practise, and practise. If you don't feel that you are in the right mindset or tired or something..walk away and go back to it later.. good luck!

Jay

i got one tip....don't get a bpm counter couse u'll get used to it and when being without it u'll suck at beat matching

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agreed to that

i agree with both: don't buy a beat-counter.

I would say that it's not really the beat-matching that matters, at least not in the beginning.
First learn starting records on the right time.
Once you get that, start trying to beatmatch. Use your finger to speed up or slow down a record.

I know that this is a pretty short explaination, but it's no use making it any longer.

All that matters is: PRACTICE, PRACTICE.

Good luck.

to be honest..using you should try to NEVER touch the record unless cueing.
ride the pitch..what i mean by that is..instead of touching the record to slow it down..or touch the platter..pitch the record down a bit..and back up a little be lower than where it start*adjust accordingly*.because touching the platter or the record isnt a permante speed change..it will most likely drift again.so i say..never take your hand off either pitch..unless you u wanna be george acosta and throw your hands in the air

My tips:

1st of 1st of all, no beat counter, it'll just urge you to depend on it, and you can spend that money on so much more important stuff (think of what a waste it is compared to 10 vinyls)

Don't be affraid to touch the vinyl if one of the records is rushing/ behind. Just give it a push, pushing for me is much easier... when slowing a record down, U might want to be careful.

A good method to start with for beat matching is this:
start playing record no. 1

Cue record number to and start playing... Now push the record back and forth till both records make a beat at the same time.

Now, wait a bit, check out if record no. 2 plays faster or slower, FF or slow down the record to make them have a beat at the same time again, and then accordingly push the pitch slide to the center of either the + or the - (IE if the max is 8, push it to 4) and then keep listening... see if #2 is now faster or slower... syncroniize beats again and now push the slide to eith either 1/4 parts of the slide (IE +2, +6, -2, -6) and listen again... this way, you'll be closing on the right pitch value after a short while.
It's very important to start with LOOOW expectations. Even if you don't make the beats match untill the end of the trafck, eep at it, hear it again and again untill you get it right.
As for 4/4 8/8 and 16/16 etc couts, you'll get it naturally while you're at it, it's not something you have to practice a lot, because you do it sub- conciously while hearing the music... If you want to practice it that bad, just listen to the music without beat matching and see... (P.S., Typical elements that help counting are Claps- which ussually mark 2/4 , 4/4. Crashes which are ussually 1/16, 1/8, that typical hihat that's usually 1.5, 2.5, 3.5 etc. >>speaking in terms of KICKS<<)

Good luck!!

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Originally posted by oDrori My tips: 1st of 1st of all, no beat counter, it'll just urge you to depend on it, and you can spend that money on so much more important stuff (think of what a waste it is compared to 10 vinyls) Don't be affraid to touch the vinyl if one of the records is rushing/ behind. Just give it a push, pushing for me is much easier... when slowing a record down, U might want to be careful. A good method to start with for beat matching is this: start playing record no. 1 Cue record number to and start playing... Now push the record back and forth till both records make a beat at the same time. Now, wait a bit, check out if record no. 2 plays faster or slower, FF or slow down the record to make them have a beat at the same time again, and then accordingly push the pitch slide to the center of either the + or the - (IE if the max is 8, push it to 4) and then keep listening... see if #2 is now faster or slower... syncroniize beats again and now push the slide to eith either 1/4 parts of the slide (IE +2, +6, -2, -6) and listen again... this way, you'll be closing on the right pitch value after a short while. It's very important to start with LOOOW expectations. Even if you don't make the beats match untill the end of the trafck, eep at it, hear it again and again untill you get it right. As for 4/4 8/8 and 16/16 etc couts, you'll get it naturally while you're at it, it's not something you have to practice a lot, because you do it sub- conciously while hearing the music... If you want to practice it that bad, just listen to the music without beat matching and see... (P.S., Typical elements that help counting are Claps- which ussually mark 2/4 , 4/4. Crashes which are ussually 1/16, 1/8, that typical hihat that's usually 1.5, 2.5, 3.5 etc. >>speaking in terms of KICKS<<) Good luck!!

GOLD TIPS!! ... im a begginer too... and u are right.... those 4/4 , 1/8, etc.. i will get it Naturally.... Thanks for Helping people like Us.

Thanks to all of u Guys,

See ya.