Become a part of the TranceAddict community!Frequently Asked Questions - Please read this if you haven'tSearch the forums
TranceAddict Forums > DJing / Production / Promotion > Production Studio > Old school sound question!
  Last Thread   Next Thread
Share
Author
Thread    Post A Reply
substorm
Onova|2007



Registered: Jun 2005
Location: Tranceland
Dunno Old school sound question!

Hey again guys!

I have just "run in the mud" in my latest production. I have been sitting and analyzing this typical old trance sound used in many tracks before.

So, im not an pro in synth programing, but i often end up with the sound i want, it just takes a little more time than you guys who know what knobs to turn!

Anyway, i have been sitting herr for about 5 hours now, trying to recreate this sound, but just dont get it right!!!! and now just on the edge to give up. But i thought i would give it one last try if there is someone here who knows how to do it!

The sound im searching for is a verry typical and non original. Its that old pluck sound used in meny old PVD, Above and Beyond tracks. It sound so simple but i cant get it right! I have used my v-station for this, and my pro-53 and vanguard!

I dont have a sample, i just hope that someone knows what sound i talking about!?

Please help me!! before i turn mad

Cheers
C


___________________
Download my tracks at AJ-tunes!
ajtunes.com/onova


Latest tune:Dj Eco - Paradise now (Onova remix) [Lunatique records]

Old Post Aug-18-2006 01:53  Sweden
Click Here to See the Profile for substorm Click here to Send substorm a Private Message Visit substorm's homepage! Add substorm to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
LENG
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Dec 2005
Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

hm... it would be very hard for us to help ya get the sound without a sample clip...

Old Post Aug-18-2006 02:16  Malaysia
Click Here to See the Profile for LENG Click here to Send LENG a Private Message Add LENG to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
substorm
Onova|2007



Registered: Jun 2005
Location: Tranceland

Hmm, yea... But if i say, something close to "PVD - For an Angel" classic pluck lead?!

Cheers


___________________
Download my tracks at AJ-tunes!
ajtunes.com/onova


Latest tune:Dj Eco - Paradise now (Onova remix) [Lunatique records]

Old Post Aug-18-2006 03:22  Sweden
Click Here to See the Profile for substorm Click here to Send substorm a Private Message Visit substorm's homepage! Add substorm to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
Lindo
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Apr 2006
Location: New York

If you're talking about those old PVD - For an Angel and old AvB tracks, someone said awhile back that the trick is recursive modulation. I've only made 2 or so patches for pluck sounds and they're okay, but I know the general idea.

V-Station: This is what I did for v-station. I loaded 3 different waveforms (square, triangle, saw). Now the triangle sound is going to give it that soft, pure sound you want for the attack/pluck part of the sound. The square is going to give it a pure sound along with the saw. If you want, try to create a pwm waveform using the LFOs. I don't know much about pwm, but I know it gives a nice lush sound to pads so why not try it here. I don't know too much about the level settings or how much to detune each knob and stuff (hey it's a patch in the making right now).

I think the secret to this patch though is in the mod env. Work with a short attack, short decay, moderate sustain and fairly long release. These settings ensure that the filter opens with a "wah" pluck and it closes fairly slowly after it decays down. I think keytrack should be very low (test with this), mod env all the way to the right and your filter freq down pretty low.

For the amp env, try 0-5 attack, 55-65 decay, sustain low, release medium.

Extra: Turn unison detune on around 75. Whatever sounds good to you. VCO drift all the way. Uni voices to 8.


That should be enough to mess around with for the day. Tell me if you get anywhere cool.


Use a quality chorus effect along with an interesting delay line and you're set.



Edit: I'll attempt with another synth if you'd like it's just that V-Station and I are best friends lol.

Old Post Aug-18-2006 03:29  United States
Click Here to See the Profile for Lindo Click here to Send Lindo a Private Message Add Lindo to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message

TranceAddict Forums > DJing / Production / Promotion > Production Studio > Old school sound question!
Post New Thread    Post A Reply

 
Last Thread   Next Thread
Click here to listen to the sample!Pause playbackPlz help me ID. [2002] [1]

Click here to listen to the sample!Pause playbackBBE – Seven Days & One Week [2009]

Show Printable Version | Subscribe to this Thread
Forum Jump:

All times are GMT. The time now is 13:35.

Forum Rules:
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is ON
vB code is ON
[IMG] code is ON
 
Search this Thread:

 
Contact Us - return to tranceaddict

Powered by: Trance Music & vBulletin Forums
Copyright ©2000-2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Privacy Statement / DMCA
Support TA!