I was wondering what you fellas thought. is this the direct result of america's failure of its so called War on Drugs??

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MEXICO CITY, Mexico (AP) -- In a horrifying show of brutality, gunmen barged into a bar in central Mexico early Wednesday and tossed five human heads on the dance floor, after covering patrons with their weapons, officials said. Heavily armed men fired their guns in the air as they entered the bar in Uruapan in the central state of Michoacan, said Magdalena Guzman, spokeswoman for the state prosecutor's office. The gunmen ordered patrons to the ground before tossing the heads. Guzman said investigators believe the beheadings were linked to organized crime, possibly drug smugglers. No arrests had been made. Police were still trying to identify the victims, she said. The attackers left a note written on a piece of cardboard reading: "The family doesn't kill for money. It doesn't kill women. It doesn't kill innocent people, only those who deserve to die." Guzman said the state prosecutor and governor had requested the federal government beef up organized crime investigators in the Pacific coast state. Officials also urged the public to come forward with any information. The grisly killings were the latest in a nation plagued by growing drug-related violence. Arrests of major drug cartel leaders have sparked an increasingly brutal and ruthless drug war in Mexico as gangs battle for control of lucrative routes. So far this year, at least six human heads of police and rival drug smugglers have been found in the Pacific resort of Acapulco. One washed up on a popular beach in the tourist zone, and the rest have been dumped in front of government offices. In the past few months, heads have also been found in other states plagued by drug violence, including the border states of Baja California and Nuevo Leon.

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I think it is, but would love to hear some other takes on it...

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Originally posted by LazFX is this the direct result of america's failure of its so called War on Drugs??

no. this is a direct result of some psychotic Mexican asshole's ego trip.

maybe if say you did it, i would consider blaming it on America's failed "war on drugs".

Savage but very random it would of been quite distressing I imagine for the people in there, mind you if it's gangsters killing gangsters then it wouldn't upset me really however innocent people will always get caught up in any kind of gang violence.

It wouldn't suprise me if the Bar was owned by some rivals or linked to a rival gang i.e. they frequent the place a lot, hence the note and the reason why the bar was picked but there will be retaliation and plenty of it too.

Mind you imagine lying with the missus in Acapoulco 'another margarita dear?' suddenely some severed head washs up right next to you.

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Originally posted by Q5echo maybe if say you did it, i would consider blaming it on America's failed "war on drugs".

sshhhhhhhhh Q5escho,,,,, you will blow my cover

seriously though, with out the American want for the product these guys would have no incentive to do such things. would you agree?

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Originally posted by LazFX would you agree?

yes, but it doesn't have to go as far as lopping off peoples heads and throwing them on a dance floor to understand that drug trafficking is hear to stay as long as there is a demand for it.

these guys are animals.

in fact, i would go as far to say that coming this far-throwing severed heads on a dance floor in Mexico-is a sign of escalation and desperation being a direct result of maybe a success in the "war on drugs"

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Originally posted by Q5echo yes, but it doesn't have to go as far as lopping off peoples heads and throwing them on a dance floor to understand that drug trafficking is hear to stay as long as there is a demand for it. these guys are animals. in fact, i would go as far to say that coming this far-throwing severed heads on a dance floor in Mexico-is a sign of escalation and desperation being a direct result of maybe a success in the "war on drugs"

I would agree with you to the point that if a success was causing this then we would see a decrease in drug use hear in the US. When in Fact, we have not....

here is another take on it from a more local source

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Strategic location Narcotics officials point to Michoacan's strategic importance as a transshipment point for South American cocaine. After landing on the Pacific coast, the drugs are often trucked to Apatzingan, a bustling agricultural town two hours inland, then they are flown to points north from nearby Guadalajara. And the traffic is expected to grow with plans to convert the state's main coastal city, Lazaro Cardenas, into a major container port. But there's another critical factor fueling the violence: Michoacan is the country's leading producer of crystal methamphetamines, or ice, which has been rising in popularity in the U.S. The first clandestine laboratories for the drug — which is made from chemicals used in cold medicines — were discovered in the early 1990s in Apatzingan, which is 45 miles east of Tepalcatepec. The surrounding fertile region also has a long history of producing marijuana and poppies for making heroin, along with cotton, lemons and papayas. These days, however, some locals are shunning agriculture in favor of the more profitable synthetic drug trade, Mexican officials say. And signs of their prosperity are easy to spot. Some locals snap up Hummers at a dealership that recently opened outside Apatzingan. Others cruise through the town in gleaming pickups with tinted windows. Some police officers can't help but join the action. In August, 24 municipal police officers from Apatzingan were indicted on charges of conspiring with the powerful Gulf cartel, whose bloody rivalry with the Sinaloa cartel is blamed for much of the violence nationwide. The traffickers have also corrupted state and federal police, narcotics officials say. ''The only way to stop the violence in Michoacan would be to replace the entire police force at all levels," said a state intelligence official, speaking on condition of anonymity. ''You can't imagine what a huge problem we have here." Businesses extorted In Tepalcatepec, the traffickers have begun extorting local businessmen to raise money for their armies of hit men — an estimated 900 of whom are believed to operate in the state, according to Mexican officials. Recent federal raids in Michoacan have been successful in rounding up hundreds of traffickers, he said. But Gonzalez, the Tepalcatepec mayor, is unconvinced. He and other residents recently took out a full-page ad in a local newspaper pleading for more federal police and soldiers to combat the traffickers. The recent spate of beheadings in the town began after the tortured body of a suspected top hit man turned up in July five miles outside of Tepalcatepec. Police say the victim's gang members erected a cross in his honor and then took their revenge by beheading their rivals and dumping their heads at the site. ''The situation is serious, critical even," Gonzalez said. ''I can't imagine what would make someone want to do something like that." SOURCE

The only reason this is going on is the want from the buyers. The American people... Just like during the days of Prohibition, this same kind of gangland slayings and turf wars were going on....
Do any of you think that perhaps the US should ease up on the prohibition of Drugs. How long is it going to take for this type of savage acts to cross over to the US. I know that there are killings for turf in the inner cities, but not with the magnitude that seems to be heading our way. MS13 mean anything??

I am sure this has been disscussed before, but right now, this is a bud that if not nipped now, could turn into something very bad.

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Originally posted by LazFX this is a bud that if not nipped now, could turn into something very bad.

absolutely.

however, i think there is an onus on the part of Mexican officials too. good luck with that

i mean ffs! the reporter pretty much laid out their whole operation and what the hell is the Mexican government doing about it? i don't know really, but it's pretty f**ked up we're still reading about it.

i'm sure the Mexican government doesn't want severed heads rolling around the streets of Burritoville as much as the next Mexican, but do you think those same officials wake up everyday thinking what they can do for us? hardly.

we need to get medieval on our borders and f**k all the haters.

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Originally posted by Q5echo we need to get medieval on our borders and f**k all the haters.

but lets not forget also that we need to do the same too all of the Drug users as well, with out the demand, there would be no supply....

So we should get medieval on all drug users too. Cause as long as the demand is around, no amount of sealing borders or f**king all the haters as you put it, will amount to nothing but a hill of mexican jumping beans..

Oh yeah and by the way, I am talking about the crack heads, meath heads and coke heads. Cause we all know that there ain't a damn thing wrong with hemp and its whacky cousin

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Originally posted by LazFX but lets not forget also that we need to do the same too all of the Drug users as well.

i don't know what you'd do other than warehouse them like we already do. are you talking about getting all GW-secret-squirrel-CIA-naked pyramid-prison on their ass?

Meth is becoming pop with americans. The potency of meth increases so often and when it does users increase. Meth is the new cocaine for the CIA there is no reason to believe that the american government is behind or isn't to blame for incidents like this.

And another thing.


Viva Mexico!

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Originally posted by metalgearsolid Meth is becoming pop with americans. The potency of meth increases so often and when it does users increase. Meth is the new cocaine for the CIA there is no reason to believe that the american government is behind or isn't to blame for incidents like this. And another thing. Viva Mexico!

sshhhh you are going to give up our stragedy mi amigo
They take our land we give them Monkey for thier backs!!

ha ha ha


just kidding ya,,





or am I??