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Israel committed "war crime" in Gaza JERUSALEM (Reuters) - Israel's bombing of a power plant in the Gaza Strip this year was disproportionate and constituted a war crime under international law, an Israeli human rights group said on Wednesday. Israeli war planes bombed and largely destroyed the power plant outside Gaza City on June 28, three days after Palestinian militants abducted an Israeli soldier in a cross-border raid from Gaza. The soldier is still being held. Israel said at the time that it bombed the plant to cut power supplies and therefore make it more difficult for militants to operate and to transfer the captured soldier. The bombing cut off electricity to many of Gaza's 1.4 million residents, affecting hospitals and food supplies, and had a knock-on impact on the water and sewage systems. "The bombing of the power plant was illegal and defined as a war crime in international humanitarian law as the attack was aimed at a purely civilian object," rights group B'Tselem said in a report entitled "Act of Vengeance". "Even if one adopts the doubtful claim that the attack provided some definite military advantage, it was disproportionate and Israel had other, less harmful alternatives." B'Tselem, an independent group that monitors Israel's occupation of the West Bank and its policies in Gaza, called on the Israeli government to open a criminal investigation into the bombing and prosecute those responsible for the attack. It also called on the government to pay to rebuild the $150 million plant, an operation which is expected to take nearly a year. The United Nations in July described the bombing of the 140-megawatt facility as a disproportionate use of force and said it had contributed to worsening humanitarian problems in the Gaza Strip. http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=1429582006

Israel doing what it does best: "sending a message"

do it again. Israel dares them.

maybe if the palestinians tried building an Infastructure instead of always blaming israel and the jews for there problems or firing rockets maybe theyd enjoy what they have and move on. do you think israel bombed it because it felt like it?

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and that article is months old no one cares anymore

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Originally posted by homerj14 maybe if the palestinians tried building an Infastructure instead of always blaming israel and the jews for there problems or firing rockets maybe theyd enjoy what they have and move on. do you think israel bombed it because it felt like it?

yes

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^ if thats the case then..

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You are not wery nice are you.

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Originally posted by Q5echo do it again. Israel dares them.

so what youre saying is that it is perfectly ok to commit war crimes when retaliating? could you link me to the part of the geneva convention that covers that please?

but while we're here, could you also provide me with what, if anything, israel has achieved by bombing the shit out of lebanon? i mean, asides from destabilising a nation, catapulting hezbollah into a position of authority far exceeding what it was before the war, and murdering (via collateral damage & deliberate targetting) scores of civilians?

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Israel, and any other nation, are only bound by geneva convention laws if its enemy (Palestinians/Terrorists) follow the convention as well.

The Geneva convention is formulated as a treaty that two warring parties enter into with each other by default once an armed conflict begins. The treaty, just like any other contract, needs to be no longer honored if one party violates it.


Just as in any other business contract: Say a client agrees to pay me $1,000,000 in exchange for me shipping him 100,000 cases of my finest Zionist Mustard, and we sign and have an agreement, etc. I am not obligated to ship him those 100,000 cases if he never ended up paying me the $1,000,000.

Simarily, if the Palestinians violate the contract they entered into with Israel at the begining of the armed conflict, in which manner they will respectfully settle their differences through violence, Israel is no longer obliged to honor that contract.

Thats the basis of it, and if we would understand that, I think we would be the better for it. Afterall, the only reason terrorism works is because the West allows it to work by restricting its retaliation to its moral ideals.

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^^ oh, so the geneva convention doesnt offer protection to non-combatants?

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Originally posted by Yoepus Israel, and any other nation, are only bound by geneva convention laws if its enemy (Palestinians/Terrorists) follow the convention as well. The Geneva convention is formulated as a treaty that two warring parties enter into with each other by default once an armed conflict begins. The treaty, just like any other contract, needs to be no longer honored if one party violates it. Just as in any other business contract: Say a client agrees to pay me $1,000,000 in exchange for me shipping him 100,000 cases of my finest Zionist Mustard, and we sign and have an agreement, etc. I am not obligated to ship him those 100,000 cases if he never ended up paying me the $1,000,000. Simarily, if the Palestinians violate the contract they entered into with Israel at the begining of the armed conflict, in which manner they will respectfully settle their differences through violence, Israel is no longer obliged to honor that contract. Thats the basis of it, and if we would understand that, I think we would be the better for it. Afterall, the only reason terrorism works is because the West allows it to work by restricting its retaliation to its moral ideals.

ahhh it all makes sense now, if those Arabs fire a rocket into Israel that kills 3 people and destroys a house, or kidnaps an Israeli soldier, Israel is morally obliged to kill 100 dirty arab terrorist civilians (because no one is innocent) and cripple the poverty stricken countries infrastructure. Revenge, vindictiveness and "An eye for an eye" (or perhaps 100 eyes for an eye?) thankyou for putting it so eloquently Yoepus

and i'm not implying Palestinians are above revenge, if they were given the same military funding as Israel there would be more abhorrent attrocities on both sides but on a much larger scale. Israel just seems to think it can oppressively flaunt its military might through collective punishment, and crippling civilian infrastructure so the country remains perpetually poverty stricken

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^^ yeah, i find it interesting how israeli apologists dont seem to make the distinction between a terrorist organisation living in an impotent state, and the state itself.

itd be like if some new zealand extremists kidnapped australian nationals, so we then bombed the whole fucking country in retaliation

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