ableton?

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On OOKA-OOKA ME NACHOS ME PRESS KEYS ON COMPUTER GOOD

Yeah ableton.Why what do you know?

I've been doing a fair bit of reading up on controllers for Ableton, the Behringers seem to actually be good for the money.

Click me for some more info on some of your options.

I make killer mixes in Ableton using only a mouse.

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Originally posted by Zild I make killer mixes in Ableton using only a mouse.

But you must have an external mixer, otherwise I don’t believe you.

When using a mouse you can only control one parameter at once, which is very limited, not very musical either. You performance will suffer because of it.

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Originally posted by spolitta But you must have an external mixer, otherwise I don’t believe you. When using a mouse you can only control one parameter at once, which is very limited, not very musical either. You performance will suffer because of it.

No external mixer just the mouse. I do it all the time when I'm at home messing around on the computer. They're actually some of the best mixes I've done. Just giving the guy the idea that he can start doing mixes right now with just his mouse.

Like I said before the mixes I make with my mouse are actually very good. I don't care if you believe me or not.

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PVD was using the mouse only for quite a while. He now uses the Xone 3D & a Trigger Finger.

My personal recommendation is the BCD2000, and the DJ application of your choice. Each one is going to have pluses and minuses, depending on what you are trying to do.

Ableton is an awesome tool, but as many people have pointed out on this board, it is more geared toward production (both studio and live) than DJing. It's also the most expensive software package of these I've listed.

Traktor is definitely aimed at this crowd, but depending on your computer setup, it can be a HUGE system resource hog (this can be true of Ableton as well). The new version has support for 4 virtual decks, mixer emulation and some decent (but basic) effects.

It takes a little elbow grease to get the BCD2000 working with Trakor and Ableton.

VirtualDJ is less polished, but is very customizable. If you check out their website, you'll notice a ton of user-created effects, filters and addons. The newest version supposedly supports the BCD2000 natively. One downside is that its almost $100 more than Traktor.

B-DJ is the application that comes with the controller. This application is created by Xylio, the same people that make FutureDecks. The benefit of this program is that it was designed SPECIFICALLY for this controller. It is not as fully featured as the others, but does have "decent" beat detection, some basic effects and is skinnable. Best part is that its FREE. The developers closely monitor the forums for suggestions for the next update.

There are a bazillion more programs out there, but those are 4 that I would take a look at in conjunction with the Behringer controller. The quality on this piece of hardware is quite a bit better than some of the trash mixers I have played on. It hasn't really been out long enough (at least not in the States) to do a long-term test, but I haven not heard of any major problems.

My best suggestion is to try a demo of some of these applications and just pick whatever works best for you. It never hurts to take advice, but don't let the masses push a product down your throat just because "everyone's doing it". I don't post often on the forums, but I have lurked around here long enough to know that some folks can get pushy with their idea of the Holy Grail of hardware and software.

No matter what you pick, someone will always argue that you "should have gone with Product XYZ...Product ABC sucks, my friend broke 5 of those during one of his livesets, and I heard actually stopped playing his set at Ibiza, climbed a water tower and jumped because it sucked so bad".

Last edited by LugNutX on Oct-04-2006 at 15:49

Don't use BCD2000, it sucks.

BCD2000 is the shit, and I don’t mean that in a good way. This toy has a very bad A/D converter, it freezes sometimes for a few seconds, and it feels awfully cheap. The plastic knobs feel shitty and the buttons are the worst things on the mixer, on the other hand the layout is well designed and it’s very inexpensive for what it does.