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woscar
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Songs to start a Tech House set off

I'm in the process of mixing my very first CD to give out to friends and stuff...but I'm having trouble deciding what song to use to start it off.

Any help?


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nchs09
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Re: Songs to start a Tech House set off

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Originally posted by woscar99
I'm in the process of mixing my very first CD to give out to friends and stuff...but I'm having trouble deciding what song to use to start it off.

Any help?
progression is the key.. start with something soft and move on up. or maybe an acapella? thats what i started my last set with.


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The knife - heartbeats (rex the dog mix)

nice and slow for you

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Re: Re: Songs to start a Tech House set off

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progression is the key.. start with something soft and move on up. or maybe an acapella? thats what i started my last set with.


No. Don't. That's the worst fucking advice ever. Please don't be a DJ if you think this is a good idea.

Ask any storyteller, filmmaker or writer, how to begin a story, NONE of them say "the first chapter should start slow, with nothing happening".

B-O-R-I-N-G!

The audience doesn't know you. They don't even care about you. You must get them to WANT to care. You must grab their attention somehow. Playing a dull, derivative track is not going to move them. First impressions are important--if you haven't got them within the first minute, they're going to leave and not wait around to see what you're going to do next. It doesn't matter how good you promise them your set is going to be. If the first track sucks, they will fuck off.

Who's the greatest storyteller of all time? Shakespeare. What did he do to start all of his plays? Right there, Act 1, Scene 1, in damn near every one of them SOMETHING EXCITING happened. A BAM moment, that grabbed the audience's attention. Either a fight, or a death, or a supernatural apparition, or some fucked up crazy shit happened that got the audience to sit upright in their seats and pay attention.

And then, once you've got their attention, then you can slow things down and weave the plot accordingly.

Look at the most famous opening scene in all moviedom: Star Wars. What's going on? Big fucking ship attacking another ship. That's awesome. That's exciting. That's what got the people into it in the first place. That first scene is the most crucial scene in the entire franchise. If the movie had just jumped right into Tatooine without that crucial first scene, people would have gotten bored and left the theatre.

Don't start your set off slow. That's the kiss of death of any good story. Start your set off with a bang-an electric moment, that totally hypes people up. Then, afterward, play.....well, what you play after that depends on how good of a storyteller you are.

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Ted Promo
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Music is not plays or written stories or anything like that. I like intro tracks as do many other people. I find it boring when mixes start straight out with some 4/4 kick or go straight into a beat.

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depending on how well the percussion leads into the bassline. Thats a good way to start a set. A good example is

ferry corsten - punk (kid vicious remix)

also a nice trance set starter is

yahel - sugar 1

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aftermath!!

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Allied Nations
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I always start with a super calm, but grabbing track. It just has to be something that grabs the listener- usually I don't even select an edm tune at all-


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Clovis
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Re: Re: Re: Songs to start a Tech House set off

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No. Don't. That's the worst fucking advice ever. Please don't be a DJ if you think this is a good idea.

Ask any storyteller, filmmaker or writer, how to begin a story, NONE of them say "the first chapter should start slow, with nothing happening".

B-O-R-I-N-G!

The audience doesn't know you. They don't even care about you. You must get them to WANT to care. You must grab their attention somehow. Playing a dull, derivative track is not going to move them. First impressions are important--if you haven't got them within the first minute, they're going to leave and not wait around to see what you're going to do next. It doesn't matter how good you promise them your set is going to be. If the first track sucks, they will fuck off.

Who's the greatest storyteller of all time? Shakespeare. What did he do to start all of his plays? Right there, Act 1, Scene 1, in damn near every one of them SOMETHING EXCITING happened. A BAM moment, that grabbed the audience's attention. Either a fight, or a death, or a supernatural apparition, or some fucked up crazy shit happened that got the audience to sit upright in their seats and pay attention.

And then, once you've got their attention, then you can slow things down and weave the plot accordingly.

Look at the most famous opening scene in all moviedom: Star Wars. What's going on? Big fucking ship attacking another ship. That's awesome. That's exciting. That's what got the people into it in the first place. That first scene is the most crucial scene in the entire franchise. If the movie had just jumped right into Tatooine without that crucial first scene, people would have gotten bored and left the theatre.

Don't start your set off slow. That's the kiss of death of any good story. Start your set off with a bang-an electric moment, that totally hypes people up. Then, afterward, play.....well, what you play after that depends on how good of a storyteller you are.



That is the most shit DJing advice I have ever heard. "Your set needs to be leik teh movie star warz"

Fuck


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Allied Nations
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That is the most shit DJing advice I have ever heard. "Your set needs to be leik teh movie star warz"

Fuck


He's right and he's wrong. I'd never start off a demo with a boring tune, or a crap tune, it needs to be grabbing- but it doesnt need to be peak hour.


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Danny Ocean
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i've never gotten these "help me pick tracks for my mix" threads. It your mix, youre supposed to pick out the tracks that fit your taste in music. do some music search in online labels and listen to some samples. If you can't do this, you shouldn't even be a DJ.
I understand this is the first CD you're making and you want to leave a good impression so i get why you are here asking for opinions. But you will get suggestions from everyone elses tastes and not your own. Find your own and mix your own.

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Clovis
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Songs to start a Tech House set off

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He's right and he's wrong. I'd never start off a demo with a boring tune, or a crap tune, it needs to be grabbing- but it doesnt need to be peak hour.



Yes, because he misconstrued "slow" as "boring"


If you're a good DJ you shouldnt have any boring music in the first place.


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