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Akridrot
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North Korea did Nuclear tests 10.8.06

Literally 6 minutes ago..

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SEOUL, South Korea (AP) -- South Korean government officials said North Korea performed its first nuclear weapons test Monday, the South's Yonhap news agency reported

North Korea's official Korean Central News Agency (KCNA) reported the country has performed a successful nuclear test.

According to KCNA, there was no radioactive leakage from the site.

South Korean officials could not immediately confirm the Yonhap report.

South Korean President Roh Moo-hyun convened an urgent meeting of security advisers over the issue, Yonhap reported.

The North said last week it would conduct a nuclear test as part of its deterrent against a possible U.S. invasion.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiap...t.ap/index.html


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Q5echo
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good.

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why good?


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Q5echo
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it makes things much clearer and finite on the issue of negotiations.
in addition
if it was successful like they say, we can cross off certain intel anomallies that we had prior to the test that either mitigated our theories or substantiated them. plus all the intel that we gleaned from watching them prep for one.

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so every mushroom cloud has a silver lining?


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Q5echo
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quote:
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so every mushroom cloud has a silver lining?

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quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
it makes things much clearer and finite on the issue of negotiations.
in addition


Yes, our Bush/Bolton tag-team negotiations really is a site to behold for the rest of the world. Why, everyone wants to be like us:

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Oct. 16, 2006 issue - On Sept. 19, 2005, North Korea signed a widely heralded denuclearization agreement with the United States, China, Russia, Japan and South Korea. Pyongyang pledged to "abandon all nuclear weapons and existing nuclear programs." In return, Washington agreed that the United States and North Korea would "respect each other's sovereignty, exist peacefully together and take steps to normalize their relations."

Four days later, the U.S. Treasury Department imposed sweeping financial sanctions against North Korea designed to cut off the country's access to the international banking system, branding it a "criminal state" guilty of counterfeiting, money laundering and trafficking in weapons of mass destruction.

The Bush administration says that this sequence of events was a coincidence. Whatever the truth, I found on a recent trip to Pyongyang that North Korean leaders view the financial sanctions as the cutting edge of a calculated effort by dominant elements in the administration to undercut the Sept. 19 accord, squeeze the Kim Jong Il regime and eventually force its collapse. My conversations made clear that North Korea's missile tests in July and its threat last week to conduct a nuclear test explosion at an unspecified date "in the future" were directly provoked by the U.S. sanctions. In North Korean eyes, pressure must be met with pressure to maintain national honor and, hopefully, to jump-start new bilateral negotiations with Washington that could ease the financial squeeze. When I warned against a nuclear test, saying that it would only strengthen opponents of negotiations in Washington, several top officials replied that "soft" tactics had not worked and they had nothing to lose.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/15175633/site/newsweek/


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if it was successful like they say, we can cross off certain intel anomallies that we had prior to the test that either mitigated our theories or substantiated them. plus all the intel that we gleaned from watching them prep for one.


Seems like the only way this Administration works when it comes to its intel abilities - post facto style. Invade Iraq to see if they have WMDs. Oops, don't have 'em, but at least we found out AFTER we invaded! Nutbag N. Korea tests nukes, and hey sure enough we NOW know they have 'em.

Terrific logic always on display by this Administration.


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Yea I really don't see how this can be a "good" thing in any respect of the imagination, particularly for this administration or for our country for that matter. For one, we're chasing imaginary wmds in Iraq that our own intelligence services were expressing serious doubts as to their existence, while there were no doubts among our intelligence services that N. Korea had WMDS (and frankly N. Korea freely admitted to possessing them). What we have now is a meglomaniac dictator who has demonstrated his willingness for worldwide provacation by testing and publicizing a nuclear weapons test. It seems we have no idea how far he is willing to go, and our armed forces are stretched to the point that it is unlikely that we can mount an effective military response to this provocation. I suppose we could call up the boyscouts to tackle this threat. I think they're the last untapped division on this war on terror.


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this probably explains why a chunk of hair just fell of my head.


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quote:
Originally posted by MisterOpus1
Yes, our Bush/Bolton tag-team negotiations really is a site to behold for the rest of the world. Why, everyone wants to be like us:



Love those Bushy coinkidinks, don't you?



Seems like the only way this Administration works when it comes to its intel abilities - post facto style. Invade Iraq to see if they have WMDs. Oops, don't have 'em, but at least we found out AFTER we invaded! Nutbag N. Korea tests nukes, and hey sure enough we NOW know they have 'em.

Terrific logic always on display by this Administration.


I fail to see how pointing out the U.S. administration is going to make any of us sleep any tighter tonight.
I know you like beating the anti-Bush drum but stop the banging for a second and take a look at the over-all picture; it affects us all and not in a good way...

This is scary as hell and I can only image everyone's intelligence agencies are groaning in unison after this news....


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Time for negotiations is now over. Kim Jong IL should be disposed of. NK is more of a threat than Iraq ever was, and action should be taken to remove it's leadership.
Shouldn't be that hard with the military hardware available.

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stren
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Korea is ill driven, but not irresponsible, i would be more affraid if Iran tested a nuke.


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