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Dew50
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Digital Downloads and Supporting the Artist

i started thinking about this the other day when i saw a producer tell people to buy the vinyl of his new track, not the digital download. how do royalties usually work when downloading from beatport, audiojelly, etc? do they usually get paid per download or is it just a flat fee up front?

also, if you want to support the artist more, is it better to buy the vinyl? sorry if these are obvious questions, i just always wondered

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Re: Digital Downloads and Supporting the Artist

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i started thinking about this the other day when i saw a producer tell people to buy the vinyl of his new track, not the digital download. how do royalties usually work when downloading from beatport, audiojelly, etc? do they usually get paid per download or is it just a flat fee up front?

also, if you want to support the artist more, is it better to buy the vinyl? sorry if these are obvious questions, i just always wondered
not an obvious question, iv wondered the same thing myself. i think they get paid to make a remix.. not how many of that remix they sell...

but i could be wrong. from my understanding an arist signs with a lable for lets say 2 singles and 4 remixes or 1 album or something like that.


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From what I understand the artist is send a check every month based on the # of downloads.

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Dew50
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Re: Re: Digital Downloads and Supporting the Artist

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Originally posted by nchs09
not an obvious question, iv wondered the same thing myself. i think they get paid to make a remix.. not how many of that remix they sell...

but i could be wrong. from my understanding an arist signs with a lable for lets say 2 singles and 4 remixes or 1 album or something like that.


i think i did hear that about remixes now that you mention it. that does make sense that they just get a set amount of money up front.

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Dew50
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From what I understand the artist is send a check every month based on the # of downloads.


so it's possible to track the number of downloads that each track gets? that's another thing i always wondered about

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Wisnia
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I believe, once a label decides to sign a track, the artist is payed a flat fee for that particular track and thats it. I think thats how it works with vynils. For digital, i am unsure, but im guessing its the same.


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blacknoizybox
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Registered: Jun 2005
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i think their payed according to the number of downloads. that sounds more logical to me, right? i mean it has to be fair - the more popular your music is, the more money you deserve

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Michael May
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My friend is going to be releasing a track on beatport. I will let you guys know how it works. I'll be talking to him in the next day or so, and I'll ask him. I have always wondered how it works too.

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Stu Cox
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Artists get paid per copy sold (paid as a cheque at the end of a given time period from release). They usually also get an advance (i.e. a flat amount upfront), although I'm not sure how many digital labels do this.

It varies from label to label as to whether for a digital download the artist gets the same amount, less than or more than they would for a vinyl sale... so if someone was persuading people to buy the vinyl it sounds like the label he was signed to give less for a digital download sale than a vinyl sale.


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Nemesis44
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Registered: Aug 2003
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To add to what Stu has said.

It depends on your contract with the label.

As a producer you have to be careful what you sign up to as in a lot of cases record labels will give you a one off fee and that's it regardless of the over all success of a track. A typical example of a bad record deal is the one Jason Nevins had. Basically made a world wide hit but made virtually no money out of it due to the deal and of course the royalties that went to Run DMC or more correctly Profile Records.

So many guys these days are so hungry to get signed up that they don't stop to consider what they are signing up to.

Record deals may vary greatly and for example Ferry will be able to get more money out of a deal than you or I could.
How you get paid is no different.

Tracks also get sold on from minor labels to more major ones if they are successful and again depending on your contract it will decide if you get a piece of that or not. Most artists in this scenario have made what they are going to make out of this in terms of record sales long before this happens and in a sense almost end up surrendering the rights to call the track theirs other than in name.

Cheers
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Dew50
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lots of good info here, thanks for all the responses

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jåcë
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Theres also a story behind Timo Maas' remix of "Dooms Night" that i read sometime ago. If i remember correctly Timo got shafted and all the money he should have made for that remix went directly to Azzido da Bass or to the label.

Timo was not a happy camper as you can imagine!


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