whats wrong with saving pigs.....they have just as much of a right to live as we do....they like us interact with other pigs, feel pain and sorrow, reproduce, run and play, eat and sleep, and bleed red.....is cus we talk?...or cus we are superior?...what is the difference between a baby pig and a baby human....when you break i it down..there is really no difference at all.....both are lives...correct me if i am wrong.

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Bring back 1994 NYC clubbing nights, cus the sh*t today is filled with junk parties and DJs that play sh*t House.....Zabiela, Sander, or Howells and all the rest suck and couldnt throw a night like it was in the early 90s in NYC!!!...Screw Twilo - give me Limelight circa 1993!!!

Human life is only as valuable as we make it.

There are no rules and ethics set in stone.

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The father made fetuses with flesh licking ladies / While you and your mother were asleep in the trailer park / Thunderous sparks from the dark of the stadiums / The music and medicine you needed for comforting / So make all your fat, fleshy fingers fingers to moving / And pluck all your silly strings and / Bend all your notes for me and / Soft silly music is meaningful, magical / The movements were beautiful / All in your ovaries / All of them milking with green fleshy flowers / While powerful pistons were sugary sweet machines, / Smelling of semen all under the garden / Was all you were needing when you still believed in me.

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Originally posted by davinox Human life is only as valuable as we make it.

That's the problem, I think.


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"they like us interact with other pigs"..... what?????

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Originally posted by Michael Russo --------------------------------------------------------------------- "they like us interact with other pigs"..... what?????

i meant pigs like humans interact with their own kind...i just typed too fast and it came out wrong.....but i am sure you would figure that out if you werent jus trying to be a prick.

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Bring back 1994 NYC clubbing nights, cus the sh*t today is filled with junk parties and DJs that play sh*t House.....Zabiela, Sander, or Howells and all the rest suck and couldnt throw a night like it was in the early 90s in NYC!!!...Screw Twilo - give me Limelight circa 1993!!!

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Originally posted by tiesto14 i am sure you would figure that out if you werent jus trying to be a prick.

Hahaha, no, I wasn't.

Are you the person that deleted the thread?

yes i deleted it because people where not understanding the point of it...and i felt it would be easier to delete it then to deal with moronic statements from people who dont even understand the point that was trying to be made....

All i am saying is that how can someone call themselves a PRO-LIFE advocate yet still eat animals and not be a vegetarian...the word pro means for...and the word life does not only include humans....so either dont call yourselves pro-lifers or dont contradict your seleves and eat meat and say abortion is wrong....they are very similar....

and if your going to say humans are more superior and benefit the world better then animals cus we as humans do remarkeble things...well that is total bullshit...we as humans do more harm and destruction to this world then any animal in history....

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Bring back 1994 NYC clubbing nights, cus the sh*t today is filled with junk parties and DJs that play sh*t House.....Zabiela, Sander, or Howells and all the rest suck and couldnt throw a night like it was in the early 90s in NYC!!!...Screw Twilo - give me Limelight circa 1993!!!

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Originally posted by tiesto14 and if your going to say humans are more superior and benefit the world better then animals cus we as humans do remarkeble things...well that is total bullshit...we as humans do more harm and destruction to this world then any animal in history....

Hey if you are all about animal right, then more power to you. I see some points in the cruel treatment of animals.

But to throw away the "remarkable things" that we humans have done is complete nonsense.

If we are not superior to animals then why aren't they driving cars, running a democracy, or paying taxes? If evolution had let all creatures be equal, then we'd all still be living in trees and hunting for food. (If you believe that too) This is what it all boils down to: evolution. Humans evolved to be superior to other animals, you can't have many dominant species. This would cause an uncontrolled growth that would created a population that the earth would not be able to handle.. I'm too tired to get into a huge disscusion about this now, but I'd love to hear factual rebutals.

You stated a good contridiction of belief, but then started to attack the other belief with opinionated statements.

PAyce

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Originally posted by QuickStep Hey if you are all about animal right, then more power to you. I see some points in the cruel treatment of animals.

well actually i am not .... i am just stating that people who are pro-lifers and are against abortion then they should also be vegetarians and against cruelty to animals...since the majprity of prolifers claim that a fetus is a life that deserves to live..well why does a baby deserve to live over a baby whale or goat...is it because its from a human mother...well maybe a whale or a goat mother also beleives there baby should live...they are very similar...

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Originally posted by QuickStep If we are not superior to animals then why aren't they driving cars, running a democracy, or paying taxes?

...i was stating that we as humans do more damage to the planet then animals do.....like you said driving cars causes air pollution and then we have to make roads and chop down millions of trees etc etc....

and sicne you said running a democracy ...then i would assume you mean that all NON Democratic nations are inferior to democratic one according to your statement....

And when it comes down to it...then end of the world will be do to HUMAN actions...not animals...we are whats causing the destruction of this world....yet we claim are superiority on the fact that we have government and make profitable materialistic garbage and pay taxes....seems kinda liek we should be inferior at times....

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Bring back 1994 NYC clubbing nights, cus the sh*t today is filled with junk parties and DJs that play sh*t House.....Zabiela, Sander, or Howells and all the rest suck and couldnt throw a night like it was in the early 90s in NYC!!!...Screw Twilo - give me Limelight circa 1993!!!

soooo tiesto14, humans arent animals? and you are willing to give up all the shit you have to become 'better' then? being that humans(like you and i) are so terrible?

all you seem to be doing is saying: 'humans are inferior because they destroy more stuff than most animals' AND 'prolifers HAVE to be vegans or you dont respect them'

thanks! you really dont need to attack others and state the same thing over and over again...we heard ya the first time. if we are supposed to respect your beliefs you dont have to teeter on the edge of flaming others who respond to you...late/

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Originally posted by biznology soooo tiesto14, humans arent animals? and you are willing to give up all the shit you have to become 'better' then? being that humans(like you and i) are so terrible?

yes humans are animals...whats your point????
give up what shit and give it up for what?
i NEVER said humans where terrible...maybe if people would not skim through what i say and took a fucking minute to try and get a glimpse of what i am tlaking about then you would understand what i am mean.....but as far as humans destroying the earth..well compaed to animals other then humans..we ae killing this earth/planet at a remarkeble rate...you cant deny that..if ytou do then your very ignorant...look at global warming, the ozone, the water, the air, the landscape..its all being destroyed by us NOT the bears and rabbits etc etc....thats a fact...take it or leave it..

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Originally posted by biznology all you seem to be doing is saying: 'humans are inferior because they destroy more stuff than most animals' AND 'prolifers HAVE to be vegans or you dont respect them'

Well i dont think we arte inferior..i never said that...but i also dont think we ae superior.....and no i can not respect someone who says they ae pro-life yet ae willing to kill and eat animal products....they should call themselves pro-human-lifers...that is more suited to their cause...

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Originally posted by biznology thanks! you really dont need to attack others and state the same thing over and over again...we heard ya the first time. if we are supposed to respect your beliefs you dont have to teeter on the edge of flaming others who respond to you...late/

how did i do that....so its ok for everyone to attack me but if i stand on my firm ground i am some sorta bad guy...

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Bring back 1994 NYC clubbing nights, cus the sh*t today is filled with junk parties and DJs that play sh*t House.....Zabiela, Sander, or Howells and all the rest suck and couldnt throw a night like it was in the early 90s in NYC!!!...Screw Twilo - give me Limelight circa 1993!!!

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Originally posted by tiesto14 whats wrong with saving pigs.....they have just as much of a right to live as we do....they like us interact with other pigs, feel pain and sorrow, reproduce, run and play, eat and sleep, and bleed red.....is cus we talk?...or cus we are superior?...what is the difference between a baby pig and a baby human....when you break i it down..there is really no difference at all.....both are lives...correct me if i am wrong.

"survival of the fittest" and "food chain" - pigs are food.

dont mean to piss anyone off but just how i view things. my grandparents lived on a farm and actually raised pigs for food, chickens for eggs etc. i see it from that perspective.

>JM<