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tearinox
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Registered: Dec 2006
Location: Seattle, USA
Is epic trance stupid??

I was reading the DI.FM Ishkur's guide to electronic music and I found that he hates epic trance and dutch trance. For me, these are my favorite genres. Songs like:

Paul Van Dyk - For an Angel
System F - Exhale
Deep Dish - Say Hello
Vincent De Moor - Fly Away
Ferry Corsten - Fire
Ferry Corsten - Punk

I'm quite confused with all the genres too. I'm confused with what genre certain songs songs belong in like:

PPK - Resurrection
Kreo - Burn for you
Dumonde - Memory
ATB - Marrakech
Kaycee - Escape

I'm just curious if those songs belong in the "epic trance" category.

I'm also curious if you guys like this style of trance or do you guys agree with Ishkur and say "Ferry Corsten killed trance"?

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LoveHate
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Registered: Oct 2006
Location: Vancouver

yeah i was reading that guys guide when i first got into edm, which was like around last january. i found that this guy is pretty biased in his opinions....
some of the info aint that great...but its helpful for people that need help knowing each genre.

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the_transient
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Registered: Nov 2006
Location: Auburn, WA, USA

I know PPK, Dumonde, and ATB are all considered epic trance, but I'm not sure about the others. I would say Deep Dish is almost trance-house, or "deep house" or whatever. Basically, if there's a constant base drum every 4 beats, a breakdown with no bass drum for more than 1 minute anywhere in the track, and then some synth comes building in, it's epic trance.

I got into trance in 2002, so I guess I can't understand the hatred towards epic trance. Supposedly, anybody who went to raves before the year 2000 knows all about the "love" and what the meaning of raves was supposed to be, like some sort of new wave hippies, and then people like Ferry Corsten popularized trance and killed the "vibe" of most of the raves by getting more mainstream attention. If you go to any raves nowadays, everybody calls them "parties," and about half of the people there will be crashed out along the walls on drugs. A lot of "jaded" ravers there will tell you how the scene is dead because of trance or whatever, so Ishkur must be one of those people. I've been to about 10 "parties" so far, and the music is usually so loud and poorly EQ'd that all you hear out of trance is the thump-thump of the bass drum. Then it gets quiet because of a breakdown, then back to thump-thump. Listening to trance on your home speakers is about 100x better. Maybe I've been to a bunch of lame trance parties though, I've heard Seattle has zero in the trance department compared to everywhere else.

Epic trance is my favorite kind of music, so long as it doesn't sound warmed-over or generic. Isn't that the way with any kind of music though, it sucks if it doesn't sound stereotypical? Anyways, I recommend the following artists for some good "melodic" trance, which is basically the same thing as epic trance:

Jonas Steur
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Ronski Speed

Those guys make very few crappy tracks. Hope this answers your questions.


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idoru
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Re: Is epic trance stupid??

quote:
Originally posted by tearinox
Ferry Corsten - Fire
Ferry Corsten - Punk


Epic?

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trancepunkk
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Registered: Oct 2006
Location: Melbourne

he said "and dutch trance"


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electro is a sub genre of house, if its not house wat genre is it then genius?

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kadomony
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Registered: Jul 2004
Location: Philly

none of those tunes are epic for me. for me epic would beeeee ohhh

Ransom - My Dance (Ferry Corsten Mix)
Kyau vs Albert - Falling Anywhere
Marksun & Brian - Gran Rey (Ronski Speed Remix)
Primate C- Be Free With Your Love (Duderstadt Uplifting Mix)

a shame not much of this is produced anymore


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ToF
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Registered: Jun 2004
Location: Melbourne, Australia

Ummmmm, does anyone read the disclaimer?

Fkn noobs

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Rainborn
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Location: Gothenburg, Sweden

Rapid Eye - Circa Forever (Iberia Mainroom Mix)


This is epic to me.

Lol donno if this was a question, but I realyl don't give a shit. I just felt liek saying so.

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trancepunkk
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Registered: Oct 2006
Location: Melbourne

how the fuck did ferry corsten kill trance btw? wat a fucking disgraceful comment


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electro is a sub genre of house, if its not house wat genre is it then genius?

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GoSpeedGo!
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Registered: May 2006
Location: Eisenstein's laboratory

quote:
Originally posted by trancepunkk
how the fuck did ferry corsten kill trance btw? wat a fucking disgraceful comment


He invented a huge breakdown with a supersaw.


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Rebel Brown
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Registered: Jul 2005
Location: UK

Ishkur only wrote that guide as a joke, knowing full well that it would kick up a fuss with those who like listening to trance.


Don't take it seriously.

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