Hi guys,
I need your opinions, these days I'm regularly playing at this club in my hometown, and the owner really likes my style (cuz I'm just slipping some house into it with some proper remixes of well known tunes etc.)

the thing is, now he offered me to take wednesdays parties ... the thing is...the club is really kinda mainstream...and I'd have to play some rnb and such shit too...untill now it was always a party which was held, promoted by me and the club was just kinda offered as a place where the party can be held...

now I could start having a serious income...but also will have to force myself to play more of the poppy stuff :-( and that's what I thinmk could cause the problems...what do you think?

please please please...some serious opinions...nothing like "if you can't play trance tell them to fuck off" or something ... kthxbye

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Seems like a no brainer to me.

You have two choices:

1. Sell out, earn more wedge, play shite music.
2. Maintain your self respect, offer the residency to someone else.

No one here can make the decision for you.

All I can say, is that personally I'd hold onto my personal integrity. Not least of all is the factor that I simply wouldn't enjoy playing crap music, it woulod defeat the whole object of why I'd play out in the first place, which is entirely not for financial gain.

It's all about the music!


Jarv

Last edited by Jarvmeister on Dec-09-2006 at 13:23

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Originally posted by Jarvmeister Seems like a no brainer to me. You have two choices: 1. Sell out, earn more wedge, play shite music. 2. Maintain your self respect, offer the residency to someone else. No one here can make the decision for you. All I can say, is that personally I'd hold onto my personal integrity. Not least of all is the factor that I simply wouldn't enjoy playing crap music, it woulod defeat the whole object of why I'd play out in the first place, which is entirely not for financial gain. It's all about the music! Jarv

I agree with Jarv on this one. I could never play music that I didnt like. But, maybe people are in this for different reasons. Some people do it for money, some do it for status, some do it cause they love the music. I guess I would ask myself why I am doing it. I get alot of offers to play top 40 and hip-hop because I have my own sound and a decent equipment setup, and I always have said no. I have never been offered a income like you are talking about, but I would probally say no. I make decent money at the job I am at now, so I really don't need to, plus my true love is EDM. I could never imagine Paul VanDyke spinning top 40, or Jon O'Bir producing hip-hop. Good luck on your decision.

Mike

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A mate of mine (I'll keep him anonymous for now) is an up-and-coming trance/hard house/hard trance DJ & producer, he's sold 50,000 records and played at all of the big clubs in London.

Until about 6 months ago, the highlight of his week was playing Girls Aloud, Chesney Hawkes and the Grease megamix to a load of freshers at one of our Uni bars. He only stopped doing it cos he finished his degree and moved to London...

He's gonna be in Mixmag in a couple of months time. They know about it, they don't give a fuck.

Even John Digweed used to do mobile discos, playing the "Time Warp" and "When I'm 64" at weddings and birthday parties before he started doing well on the underground circuit.

If you'll enjoy doing it (a lot of people still get a buzz from the crowd reaction even if they don't like the music), do it. If you don't know if you will or not, do it and see how you get on. Treat it like any other job, but if you're seriously into your more underground music, don't lose sight of that as well.

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i dont get this whole speach about selling out....

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yes, I kinda enjoy the crowd reaction on the grease megamix and all that shit a like...I know that when my bring my own setup then I can rock the place and still have fun...I'm just thinking about the loosing of respect...

actually being a student the income would propably help me to have a little less worries etc...and also...when I have to choose between helping with some boxes in Tesco, kaufland or K-mart or whatever alike...I still would choose playing shitty music over it anyway...I love music...and I love playing with the crowd...I just don't really love the music this crowd enjoys...

what I'd like to do is making them like my own sound...in a few months or so...I actually have played GD Dangerous Power and the response was pretty good...only thing that bothers me that playing not as mainstream sounding prog, breakbeats or trance wouldn't be that much welcome...

still I'd love to have residency in the club...it's very popular here...and if I ever move to some other town where's more of clubs which are open to more genres, than when I say I've been playing at this club, will make them a bit more friendly and earn me some respect...

still I'm pretty much undecided, the club owner is very friendly and he never told me anything about what to play or what not to play...and I know that if I played hardtrance and people liked it, he'd just sit in his corner and smile all night, as he usually does...

to answer a few of the questions ... I'm not DJing for the money ... but at this situation ... the money can make my life easier ...

I'd love to try to keep my respect around here ... but still everyone has to start somewhere somehow... :-/



Short version: Still undecided.

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If you want to then go for it. I wouldn't because I wouldn't enjoy it and I don't need the money but there is nothing wrong in doing it. Its just like any other job. If you need the money take the job if you don't pass it up.

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thanks Zild, that sounds like healthy attitude "so to say" :-)

thank you

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I don't think I could spin rap or something that I have no interest in, regardless of the money.

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Originally posted by BOOsTER yes, I kinda enjoy the crowd reaction on the grease megamix and all that shit a like...I know that when my bring my own setup then I can rock the place and still have fun...I'm just thinking about the loosing of respect... actually being a student the income would propably help me to have a little less worries etc...and also...when I have to choose between helping with some boxes in Tesco, kaufland or K-mart or whatever alike...I still would choose playing shitty music over it anyway...I love music...and I love playing with the crowd...I just don't really love the music this crowd enjoys... what I'd like to do is making them like my own sound...in a few months or so...I actually have played GD Dangerous Power and the response was pretty good...only thing that bothers me that playing not as mainstream sounding prog, breakbeats or trance wouldn't be that much welcome... still I'd love to have residency in the club...it's very popular here...and if I ever move to some other town where's more of clubs which are open to more genres, than when I say I've been playing at this club, will make them a bit more friendly and earn me some respect... still I'm pretty much undecided, the club owner is very friendly and he never told me anything about what to play or what not to play...and I know that if I played hardtrance and people liked it, he'd just sit in his corner and smile all night, as he usually does... to answer a few of the questions ... I'm not DJing for the money ... but at this situation ... the money can make my life easier ... I'd love to try to keep my respect around here ... but still everyone has to start somewhere somehow... :-/ Short version: Still undecided.

I wouldnt worry about losing your respect because of your decision. If people have a problem with your decision then "fck um". I don't think there is anything wrong with keeping an open mind. Sort of goes a little bit against what I said earlier, but I tend to struggle with the whole open mind thing. I have to constantly keep trying to practice it. You never know what could come out of a residency at that bar. You could end up introducing alot of people to music they have never heard before, and possibly fall in love with. That happened to me. Thats how I ended up falling in love with EDM. I happened to go to a party here in Detroit one night years ago, and some DJ was spinning some really deep, emotional EDM. Changed my life forever! I totally fell in love with it at that moment, and started buying alot of electronic music cds, and started finding that this type of music really moved me. It did something for me that no other type of music did. As far as music goes, my life was never the same from that point on. There may be someone in that crowd one night that is just like us, ya know?

Mike

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hey the starts are always difficult, nobody knows you atm! I mean the crowd of this club goes there for the music, not for the DJ.
they want to hear the music they have been listening to.

so get your respect at this club and gradually you can play some of your tracks. and you earn some money spinning, some ppl here can't say the same.

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i like to stay open minded when it comes to music , and although there is a lot of shitty mainstream music out there, the basslines are pretty groovy and the shit lyrics and stuff arnt so prominent when played over a powerful system...lol...so i would do it if i were you.

i dont think you should look at it as a "respect" issue, this is THE PERFECT oppurtunity for you to gain some experiance in the field!!!