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star-traveller
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U.S. Serviceman Kills Kyrgyz Civilian

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U.S. Serviceman Kills Kyrgyz Civilian
Associated Press | December 06, 2006
BISHKEK, Kyrgyzstan - A U.S. serviceman fatally shot a civilian at the U.S. military air base in Kyrgyzstan on Wednesday "in response to a threat," the U.S. military said.

A statement released by the public affairs office at the Manas Air Base, where U.S. planes and military personnel are stationed, said an Air Force security forces airman "used deadly force in response to a threat at an entry control checkpoint."

The civilian was treated by Air Force medics and died later in the base's emergency room, the statement by the 376th Air Expeditionary Wing said.


U.S. Serviceman Kills Kyrgyz Civilian

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Re: U.S. Serviceman Kills Kyrgyz Civilian

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U.S. Serviceman Kills Kyrgyz Civilian

You forgot the rest of the story, or was the justification irrelevant to your point?
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U.S. Serviceman Kills Kyrgyz Civilian
Associated Press | December 06, 2006
BISHKEK, Kyrgyzstan - A U.S. serviceman fatally shot a civilian at the U.S. military air base in Kyrgyzstan on Wednesday "in response to a threat," the U.S. military said.

A statement released by the public affairs office at the Manas Air Base, where U.S. planes and military personnel are stationed, said an Air Force security forces airman "used deadly force in response to a threat at an entry control checkpoint."

The civilian was treated by Air Force medics and died later in the base's emergency room, the statement by the 376th Air Expeditionary Wing said.

Maj. Don Traud, a base spokesman, declined to give any further information, saying investigators were still gathering information.

According to a senior U.S. military official in Washington, a fuel truck driver reportedly brandished a knife during a routine vehicle inspection. The driver was trying to gain access to the base and was killed by an Air Force security airman who was acting in self-defense, the official said, speaking on condition of anonymity because the incident is still under investigation.

Deputy Interior Minister Temirkan Subanov told The Associated Press earlier that the driver was shot twice at the base, located at the Manas airport just outside the capital, Bishkek. He said he did not know what prompted the shooting, which occurred around 3 p.m. local time (1000 GMT).

Co-workers identified the slain man as Alexander Ivanov, a 42-year-old who worked for a company called Aerocraft Petrol Management. Co-worker Sergei Pavlov said Ivanov had worked for four years for the company, which provides fuel services for Kyrgyz and international civilian aircraft, but not American military aircraft.

Pavlov said the incident happened at a checkpoint at the airport that is controlled by U.S. military personnel. He said drivers traveling from a fuel depot to fill up aircraft must stop at the checkpoint and exit the cabin of the truck while guards search the truck. Pavlov, who did not witness the shooting, said Ivanov was apparently shot after he exited the cabin of his truck.

Kyrgyz news agency Akipress, citing what it said were "competent organs," said the man acted aggressive and tried to brandish a knife or similar weapon. The agency also cited unnamed Foreign Ministry officials as saying that U.S. Ambassador Marie L. Yovanovitch had delivered a note of regret to Kyrgyz officials and promised an investigation.

Roughly 1,000 troops are located at the base, which the United States began using following the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks, primarily in support of U.S. operations in nearby Afghanistan.

Kyrgyzstan and the United States have struggled this year to agree on terms for the continued leasing of the base, which took on greater importance last year after Uzbekistan evicted U.S. forces from a base there.

The Shanghai Cooperation Organization, a regional grouping that includes Kyrgyzstan, has called for the United States to set a timetable for closing bases in SCO countries.

The United States military makes refueling stops at an airport in Tajikistan's capital, but does not have a base there.


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Re: Re: U.S. Serviceman Kills Kyrgyz Civilian

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You forgot the rest of the story, or was the justification irrelevant to your point?


Look at his other posts... I'm not surprised he'd
exclude the rest of it...

Good job GHB.


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I never post full stories, only the begining and a link to a full article.

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It happens all the time. Or do you think our servicemen only kill enemy combatants? Don't make me laugh.


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The only thing that I think is that this army base should be dismounted ASAP.

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Another service man kills another civilian.

Well, atleast the civilian didnt get raped this time.


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Yes, a man in a fuel truck tries to force his way onto an Air Force base wielding a knife. No chance of probable cause/justification there on the part of the serviceman. I mean, I think if a guy driving a truck filled with explosive content wants to force his way onto a military base, we should just let him.

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The only thing that I think is that this army base should be dismounted ASAP.

Well then petition the government of Kyrgyzstan to evict them like the government of Uzbekistan did. Until they do, the US bases will be there and they will kill people who brandish knives, guns, RPGs, etc. at base entry checkpoints.

If this same thing happened right here in the US, he'd have been shot, too. You just don't pull weapons on authority figures and expect to go on your merry way.


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Well if he was a drunk on a bicycle that pulled out a celery stick and began waving it around in a threatening manner, then they shot him you might have cause to complain.

Pulling a knife on someone with a machinegun, putting it bluntly = dumb
Its that simple!
DUMB!

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