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MisterOpus1
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"Family Values"/Anti-Gay Crowd's Next Target: Outlawing Divorce

At least they're being logically consistent:

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After its victory in last year's fight over a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage in Virginia, the Family Foundation of Virginia announced Thursday that it will push to change the state's divorce laws to make it more difficult for parents to end their marriage.

The Family Foundation, which opposes abortion and promotes socially conservative values, said it will lobby the General Assembly this year to amend the state's long-standing no-fault divorce law, which essentially allows a husband or wife to terminate a marriage without cause.

The foundation is advocating "mutual consent divorce" for couples with children, which would require a husband and wife to agree to divorce before a marriage can be legally terminated, except in certain instances, such as abuse or cruelty. The proposed legislation would not affect childless couples.

"Right now, one spouse can unilaterally end [the marriage], and not only is their spouse unable to stop the divorce, their abandonment does not preclude them from having custody of their child," said Victoria Cobb, president of the Family Foundation. "When we send a message that one can up and leave their family and have no consequence, the Old Dominion is encouraging divorce."...............

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...0401910_pf.html


I'm actually not being as snarky as you might think - I have criticized the anti-gay uber-religious folks for not being consistent with their arguments of protecting the sanctity of marriage by simply only targeting gay marriage. I can't say I follow their logic in terms of HOW they're going about this, but at least they are targeting what is clearly THE biggest and downright-most obvious threat to marriage - divorce.


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The best way to stop people from getting divorced is to stop them from getting married in the first place. Ban marriage.

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metalgearsolid
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quote:
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The best way to stop people from getting divorced is to stop them from getting married in the first place. Ban marriage.

Why ban marriage? So a lot of stupid people get married, who are not in love. Some people do love each other and marriage is a serious thing for them. Don't let stupid people like your parents ruin the idea of marriage.

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quote:
Originally posted by metalgearsolid
Why ban marriage? So a lot of stupid people get married, who are not in love. Some people do love each other and marriage is a serious thing for them. Don't let stupid people like your parents ruin the idea of marriage.


whoosh

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metalgearsolid
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quote:
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whoosh

And don't let 60% of adults ruin the idea of marriage.

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Fir3start3r
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quote:
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The best way to stop people from getting divorced is to stop them from getting married in the first place. Ban marriage.


Or have them take a pre-marital course thats mandatory before they can get married.
My wife is Roman Catholic (I'm not of any denomination but if you asked I'd say Christian) and before we could get married in a Roman Catholic church they won't marry you without taking it.

I was very skeptical at first but after taking it, I'm glad I did and would highly recommend people would (Roman Catholic or not).
I really wasn't sure what to expect but the only 'religious' part about it was what annulment was and that was covered in the first 5min. of a two day course.
The rest is common sense stuff, getting us to talk about sex, money (and fiscal responsibility, ie. budgeting ), dealing with the in-laws, children (do you want them), etc. etc.
We flew through it all because we've talked about all that stuff before but you'd be surprised how many people think how the other is going to magically change after they get married.
Some even break up after the course or fight or even cry but better then than afterwards...

Side Note:
The only 'religious' or 'normal' thing about the whole wedding was the ceremony.
Other than that, all the guys wore kilts and after that, we arranged for the taking over of a Scottish/Irish pub that Sat. afternoon with finger-foods on either end of the bar, and oh look, a bar!

We went out to a club afterwards with the kilts; everyone loved it


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quote:
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And don't let 60% of adults ruin the idea of marriage.


Marriage is for fags.

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metalgearsolid
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Marriage is for fags.

If that were the case. Than how come you are still single?

Arby, don't act like that. you don't like humans and that has nothing to do with people wanting to get married.

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quote:
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Arby, don't act like that. you don't like humans and that has nothing to do with people wanting to get married.


Your capacity for completely missing the point is impressive.

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Fir3start3r
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Do we really need to see your koofie-smacking, love bugs' posts?

Get a room


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whoosh


Lol


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Lilith
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quote:
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whoosh


Sarcasm is a lost art in this day and age
But anyway, get these idiots out of the government influence or youre just going to be rolling backwards into something you really dont want to end up in as a society.
Even on the state level it'll create friction and division with neighbouring states and its really something that should be decided on a federal level where, with any luck I'd hope there would be some more objective opinions put forth.

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