Dude, I am ,,,, wow, no comment, A man of History, dead like that.... Fucking No Way, I know the guy was an ass hole, and he deserved to die, but ,,, wow. thats all I am going to say...

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Originally posted by LazFX Dude, I am ,,,, wow, no comment, A man of History, dead like that.... Fucking No Way, I know the guy was an ass hole, and he deserved to die, but ,,, wow. thats all I am going to say...

Well, sooner or later he had to answer for his sins. Sooner came than later. He was truly a man of history. though none of it good.

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Well, it's not exactly like he was innocent. Genoside & torture makes him qualify.

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z Well, it's not exactly like he was innocent. Genoside & torture makes him qualify.

oh ya, he deserves it. 100%

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The thing that confuses me is that he's still on trial for other crimes I thought, so how can he be hanged before that's concluded at least? That aside, what the man did to human beings was wrong, and I am in favour of the death penalty, only there are many people who're responsible for many deaths, leaders of countries or their henchmen. What's good for the goose?

Now sit back and watch as the sectarian violence escalates and more american soldiers die in iraq. Already, I read 30 people die in a bomb blast in a predominantly shiite town.

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Originally posted by Omega_M Now sit back and watch as the sectarian violence escalates and more american soldiers die in iraq. Already, I read 30 people die in a bomb blast in a predominantly shiite town.

Is that an escelation or the staus quo??

On the hanging, Saddam was an evil man who committed horrible crimes and probably got what he deserved, but there's just something I find uneasy about a hanging in these times (or the death penalty in general). Tho I will shed no tears for him I think he should have gone to the Hague...

Probably an escalation, since I see the hanging of Saddam as a symbolic and highly inflammatory act from the point of view of Sunni muslims. Of course, he deserved the punishment for his brutalities. But it can be argued that there are many more who also deserve to die, but they continue to live. In my opinion, this act was more to settle scores and derive political mileage than anything else. His death is just one more in the sectarian conflict and certainly does not help in the process of reconciliation.

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The problem I have with it is that he was tried by a court and government that is still trying to legitimize itself. Sure he was bad and deserved to go on trial, but why not at The Hague like Milosevic or Pinochet (who was too ill to stand trial)? Oh yeah, because the US doesn't recognize the Internatoinal Criminal Court.

I'm skeptical regarding the fairness of the trial, even though I have no doubts that he was guilty of something. Plus, as was already mentionned, the second trial for the gassing of the Kurds was still ongoing / just about to begin, right?

The tinfoil-hat wearer in me says that this might have been rushed along for more political reasons, especially since he was a CIA pawn since the rise of the Ba'ath party and the coup that brought them to power. He could finger prominent American interests, or at least get them subpoena'ed. I don't know how involved any US people were, but it's pretty open knowledge they were helping him up to a couple years before Gulf War 1.

I guess ultimately this is closing a chapter in a very violent period in history for this region. The sad thing is that the violence will continue into the next, without so much as a pause. It makes you wonder if it was really worth it after all? Is it worth 3000 American soldiers lives? Is it worth countless Iraqi lives (both insurgent & innocent bystanders)?

I guess only history will tell, but sadly I think much more blood will be spilled before any semblance of stability emerges.