A great lecture on Zionism. This guy does an excellent job of summing up Zionism and it's implications:

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"The Greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." -Stephen Hawking
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

Very informative. I might probably buy the book.

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Originally posted by Krypton Very informative. I might probably buy the book.

well, his little promo speech worked on you didnt it?

only made it half way before i got tired of him. i just dont like listening to someone whose arguments i can't readily reference. id like to know why the arab nations were massing forces on israel's border in '67 if they weren't going to attack.

when are you going to post a lecture on islamism z?

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN when are you going to post a lecture on islamism z?

Nice ad hominem attempt, which is in no way related to a brit talking about Zionism, or me. When are you going to actually form an argument that can't be easily deconstructed in a few seconds?

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"The Greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." -Stephen Hawking
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z Nice ad hominem attempt, which is in no way related to a brit talking about Zionism, or me. When are you going to actually form an argument that can't be easily deconstructed in a few seconds?

so touchy z.

it wasnt an adhominem attempt in the slightest einstein. was merely accusing you of being thoroughly one-eyed in what you deem to be thread-worthy.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN so touchy z. it wasnt an adhominem attempt in the slightest einstein. was merely accusing you of being thoroughly one-eyed in what you deem to be thread-worthy.

Alright dude, first of all, start addressing me as Shaolin or Shaolin_Z again. Z seems to damn impersonal and only Laz can pull it off properly .

Secondly, if sticking to the facts and logical consistency, and not fearing being critical of subject most people don't even have the sack to touch, is one-eyed, umm... ok... whatever makes you happy.

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"The Greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." -Stephen Hawking
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN islamism z?

Islaminzmmmmistocracy.

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z Alright dude, first of all, start addressing me as Shaolin or Shaolin_Z again. Z seems to damn impersonal and only Laz can pull it off properly .

as you wish shaolin

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z Secondly, if sticking to the facts and logical consistency, and not fearing being critical of subject most people don't even have the sack to touch, is one-eyed, umm... ok... whatever makes you happy.

yeah ok, fair enough. im just a fan of balance, coz regardless of how many facts or logical consistencies a position may hold, sometimes viewing from the other side of the fence can be insightful

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Are you behind a proxy or something at work btw? Your status almost never says online.

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"The Greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." -Stephen Hawking
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN sometimes viewing from the other side of the fence can be insightful

...or Jewish

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z Are you behind a proxy or something at work btw? Your status almost never says online.

silent status

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Originally posted by Q5echo ...or Jewish

If I didn't care about the plight of the Jewish people I would have a completely different stance . My master's Jewish btw, who's a really good friend of mine too (kung fu master that is, Sifu Kramsky ).

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"The Greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." -Stephen Hawking
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller