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bwanie
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Registered: Mar 2005
Location: utrecht.holland
too much classics

hi,

Just a question here:

Can you have too many classic songs in a set?

My friend is a halfway decent bedroom dj, but he mostly buys records that we know and like.

this had resulted in a collection of over 80 classics (mostly epic, some prog, some hard trance.)

this results in tracklists like this:
(mind you, they do sound phenomenal in my opinon, i'll try to upload something soon)


veracocha - carte blanche (ronald van gelderen remix)
yahel - voyage
insigma - open our eyes (liquid life remix)
3 drives on a vinyl - greece 2000
dj tiesto - sparkless (original)
gouryella - walhalla
binary finary - 1999 (gouryella mix)
gouryella - gouryella

he's due to spin in public soon, can he get away with this?

Old Post Jan-23-2007 21:51  Netherlands
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Zoso
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Registered: Mar 2006
Location: Dirty South, United States

If he is spinning to n00bz, probably. Veteran listeners, not so much.

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DOOMBOT
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If it's something he wants to take seriously and advance himself with, then no. A classic or 2 in a set is never a bad thing. But when it becomes just about every track, then yes. Always good to keep up with the times as best as you can and constantly have a revolving track selection otherwise you will just bore people to death with the same tracks over and over again.

But this is all my opinion, of course.

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Kaveh
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Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Uppsala, Sweden

No, "your friend" needs to buy some new records.


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Zild
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Registered: Jun 2004
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He's just starting out so I say give him a break. 80 records is a very small collection so I'm sure once it fills out he'll start getting into some of the new stuff. If not well nag him.


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keithos27
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Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Atlanta

he should start seeing what more popular djs are spinning (i.e. the guys that get the most upfront stuff)... then he should see if that is something he wants to incorporate into his sets... he can always go digital to get stuff pretty easily... audiojelly, beatport, etc.

if he just throws in classic after classic he'll be done after 2 gigs probably...

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Andryuha
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Registered: Sep 2006
Location: Cleveland, Ohio

I agree with other posters. Every time I see a DJ perform live, I expect him to mostly play tracks that I haven't heard before. I love hearing some popular choons here and there, but a full set of those would be boring

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Ronald Ravin'
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Location: San Francisco

I don't mind 'old' songs; my problem with those songs is not their AGE its that they're all MASSIVE. its not building up to anything, when you start off with CARTE BLANCHE where is there to go?

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nrjizer
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Registered: Jan 2001
Location: Bumfuck, GA

Diversity is key. Playing a set of nothing but popular classics would simply be boring.

Likewise, you can't just whore every A list DJ's most recent tracklists, either. Dig deep, find those unique and untouched gems. Age has nothing to do with it. The problem with all the tracks listed by the poster is not their age, it's their popularity.

Still, sometimes I can't help myself. I've recently bought tracks like Harry Peat - Affrodizziac and Prawler - Frisco (both from Desyn's OS1), and Rai - Thinking of Suzanne (from the SOS EM), just becuase they were stuck in my head and wouldn't get out (ironically, listening to Danny Howells is what got them stuck in my head again).


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Yohan
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Registered: Jan 2004
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Diversity is a good thing.

Like others have said, you want to keep a bit of familiar tunes that you don't totally lose your crowd, but also want to play tunes that others haven't heard before, or good tunes that rarely get played but aren't considered classics.

Also depends on how 'educated' your crowd is, but just classics is just tacky.


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bwanie
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Registered: Mar 2005
Location: utrecht.holland

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Originally posted by n0nsensical
I don't mind 'old' songs; my problem with those songs is not their AGE its that they're all MASSIVE. its not building up to anything, when you start off with CARTE BLANCHE where is there to go?


yes, that is also a good point.

Lucily the crowd he going to be playing won't consist of TA regulars :-)

I thank you all for replying, maybe i can convince him to invest a bit in newer\less popular tracks.

althought he's pretty bent on sticking to just vinyl, so it won't be as simple as just downloading new material.

grtz

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DJRecess
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Registered: May 2006
Location: Glasgow

Did I miss anyone else asking where and who he's playing to? (apart from the first reply)

If it's a crowd who will respond to classic stuff, he'll be fine, if it's a crowd that want to hear the latest stuff, then he won't.

Just as important is the night he's playing at. If it's a night in a bar/club (rather than a private thing he's running) - there will probably be some kind of pre-thought put into the music policy anyway. The very first place I played was called 'A Decade of Anthems' - which sounds as though it would suit this guy to a T! I could play anything within a Ten year period - and meant I could have an entire night of classics or of current tunes (the only tunes that asked I didn't play were ones noone knew - hey, it was a bar - not enough time to 'educate' them in new music :-) )

So it's down to the place, and the people. I'm sure he might get away for hald of the set - or even the entire set - playing classics, but eventually, people will tire of it, and want to hear recent, and 'the next big thing' tunes.

Just my twopence worth on this...


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