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nousplacidus
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Vinyl warp and stylus pressure (unrelated)

I searched for this stuff but I think most of it is common knowledge. I've got some vinyl now and I store it vertically but I'm finding some of it warped, just a bit so that the stylus is riding up and down on it a bit and when I put my hands down on it sometimes it pops it off (more on that in a second). Its not a huge warp, is a little bend to be expected?

Also, I've been keeping the counterweight at 2 grams on my techs, should I just be shoving the thing in as far as it will go (I do tend to get alot of skipping for really minor stuff)?

Thanks for help with the obvious stuff.

PS I started playing with ableton on a friends comp, its freaking amazing stuff, makes me want to get a nuo4 as my next mixer.


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cmay119
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The amount of pressure to be put on the stylus is different for every cartridge. I have Shure Whitelabel carts, and the typical tracking force for this styli is 2 grams.

Yes, I do have slight warping in my records, but at 2 grams tracking force I can still cue up and do light scratching with out the needle slipping out of the groove. I also keeps my records vertical.

EDIT: It will only do damage to your needles and records to give over excessive amounts of pressure to the stylus. Sound quality can also be negatively affected as well.

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as long as the warping isnt too bad you dont need to make any changes. If there are no problems beatmatching the tracks why bother???


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nousplacidus
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Hasn't been any problems beat matching, but I makes me nervouse when the thing is rolling up and down like that. I just wanted to make sure that was something to be expected and not something I was doing (I'm storing them vertically).

I have some Stanton carts, ill check out the recommended pressure when I get home, but since I slid that weight up to the front, i've been hard pressed to get that needle to jump.

Thanks all for the replies.


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Tony Morello
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seeing as how you live in honolulu

there's no way to escape your records from warping slightly due to the heat unless you have A/C running almost all the time

storing them vertical is the proper way to store them

you can even set your weight a little heavier if you're concerned

another half gram to full wouldn't do too much

setting your weight all the way front does the trick but you're running the risk of 2 things, faster record wear & faster stylus wear

the only time you should have your weight all the way forward is in a club setting or where there's excessive bass

3 grams should be just fine, make sure your anti-skate is set to 0 unless you don't do any back-cueing


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nousplacidus
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Honolulu is pretty cool, at the hottest its 82 degrees and thats in the dead of summer without the trades blowing.

Ill go home and use those settings you mentioned, though I'm sure my antiskate is at 0.

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Allen Mueller
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Originally posted by nousplacidus

I have some Stanton carts, ill check out the recommended pressure when I get home, but since I slid that weight up to the front, i've been hard pressed to get that needle to jump.

Thanks all for the replies.


Having the weight all the way up to the front is very bad for your records and needle. In that position the force that the needle is putting on the vinyl will wear out both you records and needle.

I could be wrong but it sounds like you don't have your tone arm adjusted to zero correctly.

When you weight is at zero the tone arm should balance perfectly level with out the needle touching any thing. Once you have that set correctly, you turn the black plastic part on the weight so that zero lines up with the line on the tone arm. Now you have the correct zero reference point. From there turn the weight until you have the weight at the recommended setting.


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nousplacidus
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Much appreciated but I do have it zeroed, it was the first thing I did when I got my tables. I also have the arm level with with the record surface.


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nousplacidus
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2.25 grams of pressure, with a stanton 520 sk. Good? Bad?


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