Shakka you and many others keep mentioning Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, why does the media continue to show their faces, why don't whites who are offended by them speak up and let it be known that they shouldn't be on the air. Am I missing something here.

Personally I never felt those guys at Duke did anything except exercise poor judgement in hiring strippers to have a good time. Who knows what the background of those women were and why isn't she being charged by the way.

As for this Boortz article it clearly demonstrates the atmosphere in this country where everything is seen through a prism of black, white, liberal, conservative, right wing, left wing all of which I am so fucking sick of. All of these people can take a flying leap, be they Ann Coulter, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson or whatever other knob occupies the tubes and airwaves, they are all "baiters" as you call it.

The botttom line is this Shakka "respect" give it and you'll receive it, that is all one can hope for. The state of affairs in this nations media today is far from respectful and that is why articles such as these constantly reference black and white only playing right into the games of Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and the other publicity seekers out there who we all know too well.

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Al Sharpton must have forgotten that his own race has its own problems. BET, hip hop labels, sex, drugs, crime? It's not Imus talking about shooting "niggas". But Sharpton doesn't give a flying fuck. He just wants the attention.

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Originally posted by NYCTrancefan Shakka you and many others keep mentioning Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, why does the media continue to show their faces, why don't whites who are offended by them speak up and let it be known that they shouldn't be on the air. Am I missing something here.

A good question. I have no idea why people continue to put microphones in front of these guys. I hear plenty of complaints about them, but I then get to hear that the complainers must be intolerant racists, which is quite a bit of the pot calling the kettle black (no pun intended).

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Personally I never felt those guys at Duke did anything except exercise poor judgement in hiring strippers to have a good time. Who knows what the background of those women were and why isn't she being charged by the way.

Yeah, it's pretty clear. It's also clear that the players, the coach and the university are the ones who ended up getting raped (figuratively of course) in all of this.

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As for this Boortz article it clearly demonstrates the atmosphere in this country where everything is seen through a prism of black, white, liberal, conservative, right wing, left wing all of which I am so fucking sick of. All of these people can take a flying leap, be they Ann Coulter, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson or whatever other knob occupies the tubes and airwaves, they are all "baiters" as you call it. [.quote] Perhaps, but Boortz is a libertarian! [quote]The botttom line is this Shakka "respect" give it and you'll receive it, that is all one can hope for. The state of affairs in this nations media today is far from respectful and that is why articles such as these constantly reference black and white only playing right into the games of Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and the other publicity seekers out there who we all know too well.

I don't disagree with you, but I think Boortz makes a good point that there is a double-standard here. Why is Sharpton untouchable? Boortz reminded us of his past the other day...

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The real mistake for Imus was making an appearance on Sharpton's show. [video] He should have just gone on the show, apologized, said that he crossed the line, and be done with it. Let Jesse and Al snort and paw the ground all they want ... an apology would have been sufficient. I suspect, though, that his pilgrimage to the Shrine of Sharpton this wasn't Imus' idea. My guess is that either the MSNBC crowd or CBS that told Imus that he must go kneel before the Sharpton altar. Al Sharpton is a liar and a bigot. He falsely accused Steven Pagones of rape and mutilation in the Tawana Brawley matter. He's never apologized. He incited murder at Freddie's Fashion Mart in Harlem while loudly denouncing white interlopers. No apology. Do you remember the Crown Heights Riot in New York? That's where Al Sharpton whipped a crowd into a four-day riot on rumors that a Jewish ambulance had failed to treat a young black at the scene of a disturbance after a car accident. There was Sharpton referring to "diamond merchants" shedding the "blood of innocent babies." Diamond merchants? Code word for Jews. Apology? None. And this is the man that that fool John Kerry calls the moral compass of the Democrat Party? And now what? Imus goes to Sharpton to apologize? And excuse me, but didn't I hear the words "Hymie Town" from Jesse Jackson? Sharpton is really enjoying this. He has the limelight back from Barack Obama for a time. You'll soon see him posing for the cameras with the Rutgers team. He'll also be demanding meetings with CBS and MSNBC. Ride the wave.

Just another reason as a black person I don't listen to that fllth, hip-hop fell a long way a while back. I am glad that subject of rappers themselves propogating such language was brought up during one of his media whore appearances and Sharpton claimed rather sparingly when pressed that he thought it was an issue being discussed at some pointless soiree of his upcoming. Naturally he mentions the record company execs being responsible for profiting off of it primarily, and the rappers are pawns.

I say a pox on them all from top to bottom for that garbage they sell to black and white kids might I add. I often found it odd that a network called Black Entertainment Television allows these words as in the posting by Krypton of Young Buc's lyrics to be existent without any issue.

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Originally posted by NYCTrancefan Shakka you and many others keep mentioning Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, why does the media continue to show their faces, why don't whites who are offended by them speak up and let it be known that they shouldn't be on the air. Am I missing something here. Personally I never felt those guys at Duke did anything except exercise poor judgement in hiring strippers to have a good time. Who knows what the background of those women were and why isn't she being charged by the way. As for this Boortz article it clearly demonstrates the atmosphere in this country where everything is seen through a prism of black, white, liberal, conservative, right wing, left wing all of which I am so fucking sick of. All of these people can take a flying leap, be they Ann Coulter, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson or whatever other knob occupies the tubes and airwaves, they are all "baiters" as you call it. The botttom line is this Shakka "respect" give it and you'll receive it, that is all one can hope for. The state of affairs in this nations media today is far from respectful and that is why articles such as these constantly reference black and white only playing right into the games of Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and the other publicity seekers out there who we all know too well.

Well said.

While I can agree that there is a major point that is being made, this is not a fucking partisan issue and it's pathetic that Boortz, Tom Delay (on CNN tonight), or any other Winger is trying to make it into one. And if any librul makes this a partisan issue, they deserve my criticism just as much.

This is about respect and shying away from obvious bigotry and racism. If Wingers are having a desire to turn this into a partisan issue, then perhaps they themselves (and not their party) are on the defensive a bit. For example, take a look at Glenn Beck:

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BECK: OK. No offense, and I know Muslims. I like Muslims. I've been to mosques. I really don't believe that Islam is a religion of evil. I -- you know, I think it's being hijacked, quite frankly. With that being said, you are a Democrat. You are saying, "Let's cut and run." And I have to tell you, I have been nervous about this interview with you, because what I feel like saying is, "Sir, prove to me that you are not working with our enemies." November 14, 2006 edition of CNN Headline News' Glenn Beck

Or any of these given quotes in question:

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The anti-gay slur “******” is nothing more than “a naughty name.” [1/23/07] “[Hillary Clinton is] the stereotypical bitch.” [3/15/07] “What happened to the Duke lacrosse team was practically a lynching without the rope. And for the first time in my life, Mr. Oreo Cookie without the chocolate on the outside can understand why people celebrated when O.J. Simpson was acquitted.” [1/15/07, using a racial slur for African-Americans that refers to “being black on the outside and white on the inside] “I wonder if I’m alone in this — you know it took me about a year to start hating the 9-11 victims’ families? Took me about a year.” [9/9/05] “And that’s all we’re hearing about, are the people in New Orleans. Those are the only ones we’re seeing on television are the scumbags.” [9/9/05] http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/12/franken-fire-beck/

So if Glenn or Limbaugh has a problem and wants to make this an anti-librul issue, then I think the evidence against them speaks fairly well for itself.

But this to me shouldn't be put into that political partisan limelight. The screams for hypocricy against Sharpton and Jackson are absolutely 100% correct. There is no fucking way Jackson can justify his stance against the Duke players while pretending to feel such a horrific betrayal of one senile white shock jock throw out a bigoted racial slur towards those women basketball players. Jackson is and continues to demontrate what an utter fucking disgrace he's being in this regard.

And I also think there's some definite repurcussions that should take place towards the promoters of the "hood"-type culture of African Americans with their obvious self-bigotry in their hip-hop/rap music and videos. That is just as much an equal disgrace. If anything, I'd contend it's a much, much more disgraceful act towards their own culture than a senile white man shock jock could EVER do to them. They disgrace their own people by promoting that hootchie-mama shit on the radio and MTV/BET.

To his credit, Sharpton has called out these rap videos today as well. But seriously, where the fuck was he before? Where the fuck was Jackson and his Rainbow Coalition, holding up signs of disgrace while protesting outside of Geffen Records? Or how about Atlantic Records? Any fucking rap-artist record company and/or producer?

The bullshit hypocricy is obvious, and Jackson continues to show how fucking much he is so full of it. In closing, one of my favorite local sports op-ed writers from the KC Star, Jason Whitlock, has some very interesting things to say that support my sentiments well. And for those of you who don't know him - he's an African American who's not afraid of pulling out the race card on occasion in his commentary. I don't always agree with him, and sometimes I think he's off base with his opinions, but by and large he's got some very good points and tends to hit the local/national sports issues on the nose:

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Posted on Wed, Apr. 11, 2007 Imus isn’t the real bad guy Instead of wasting time on irrelevant shock jock, black leaders need to be fighting a growing gangster culture. By JASON WHITLOCK Columnist Thank you, Don Imus. You’ve given us (black people) an excuse to avoid our real problem. You’ve given Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson another opportunity to pretend that the old fight, which is now the safe and lucrative fight, is still the most important fight in our push for true economic and social equality. You’ve given Vivian Stringer and Rutgers the chance to hold a nationally televised recruiting celebration expertly disguised as a news conference to respond to your poor attempt at humor. Thank you, Don Imus. You extended Black History Month to April, and we can once again wallow in victimhood, protest like it’s 1965 and delude ourselves into believing that fixing your hatred is more necessary than eradicating our self-hatred. The bigots win again. While we’re fixated on a bad joke cracked by an irrelevant, bad shock jock, I’m sure at least one of the marvelous young women on the Rutgers basketball team is somewhere snapping her fingers to the beat of 50 Cent’s or Snoop Dogg’s or Young Jeezy’s latest ode glorifying nappy-headed pimps and hos. I ain’t saying Jesse, Al and Vivian are gold-diggas, but they don’t have the heart to mount a legitimate campaign against the real black-folk killas. It is us. At this time, we are our own worst enemies. We have allowed our youths to buy into a culture (hip hop) that has been perverted, corrupted and overtaken by prison culture. The music, attitude and behavior expressed in this culture is anti-black, anti-education, demeaning, self-destructive, pro-drug dealing and violent. Rather than confront this heinous enemy from within, we sit back and wait for someone like Imus to have a slip of the tongue and make the mistake of repeating the things we say about ourselves. It’s embarrassing. Dave Chappelle was offered $50 million to make racially insensitive jokes about black and white people on TV. He was hailed as a genius. Black comedians routinely crack jokes about white and black people, and we all laugh out loud. I’m no Don Imus apologist. He and his tiny companion Mike Lupica blasted me after I fell out with ESPN. Imus is a hack. But, in my view, he didn’t do anything outside the norm for shock jocks and comedians. He also offered an apology. That should’ve been the end of this whole affair. Instead, it’s only the beginning. It’s an opportunity for Stringer, Jackson and Sharpton to step on victim platforms and elevate themselves and their agenda$. I watched the Rutgers news conference and was ashamed. Martin Luther King Jr. spoke for eight minutes in 1963 at the March on Washington. At the time, black people could be lynched and denied fundamental rights with little thought. With the comments of a talk-show host most of her players had never heard of before last week serving as her excuse, Vivian Stringer rambled on for 30 minutes about the amazing season her team had. Somehow, we’re supposed to believe that the comments of a man with virtually no connection to the sports world ruined Rutgers’ wonderful season. Had a broadcaster with credibility and a platform in the sports world uttered the words Imus did, I could understand a level of outrage. But an hourlong press conference over a man who has already apologized, already been suspended and is already insignificant is just plain intellectually dishonest. This is opportunism. This is a distraction. In the grand scheme, Don Imus is no threat to us in general and no threat to black women in particular. If his words are so powerful and so destructive and must be rebuked so forcefully, then what should we do about the idiot rappers on BET, MTV and every black-owned radio station in the country who use words much more powerful and much more destructive? I don’t listen or watch Imus’ show regularly. Has he at any point glorified selling crack cocaine to black women? Has he celebrated black men shooting each other randomly? Has he suggested in any way that it’s cool to be a baby-daddy rather than a husband and a parent? Does he tell his listeners that they’re suckers for pursuing education and that they’re selling out their race if they do? When Imus does any of that, call me and I’ll get upset. Until then, he is what he is — a washed-up shock jock who is very easy to ignore when you’re not looking to be made a victim. No. We all know where the real battleground is. We know that the gangsta rappers and their followers in the athletic world have far bigger platforms to negatively define us than some old white man with a bad radio show. There’s no money and lots of danger in that battle, so Jesse and Al are going to sit it out. http://www.kansascity.com/182/story/66339.html

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Originally posted by MisterOpus1 While I can agree that there is a major point that is being made, this is not a fucking partisan issue and it's pathetic that Boortz, Tom Delay (on CNN tonight), or any other Winger is trying to make it into one. And if any librul makes this a partisan issue, they deserve my criticism just as much. This is about respect and shying away from obvious bigotry and racism. If Wingers are having a desire to turn this into a partisan issue, then perhaps they themselves (and not their party) are on the defensive a bit. For example, take a look at Glenn Beck: Or any of these given quotes in question: So if Glenn or Limbaugh has a problem and wants to make this an anti-librul issue, then I think the evidence against them speaks fairly well for itself. But this to me shouldn't be put into that political partisan limelight. The screams for hypocricy against Sharpton and Jackson are absolutely 100% correct. There is no fucking way Jackson can justify his stance against the Duke players while pretending to feel such a horrific betrayal of one senile white shock jock throw out a bigoted racial slur towards those women basketball players. Jackson is and continues to demontrate what an utter fucking disgrace he's being in this regard. And I also think there's some definite repurcussions that should take place towards the promoters of the "hood"-type culture of African Americans with their obvious self-bigotry in their hip-hop/rap music and videos. That is just as much an equal disgrace. If anything, I'd contend it's a much, much more disgraceful act towards their own culture than a senile white man shock jock could EVER do to them. They disgrace their own people by promoting that hootchie-mama shit on the radio and MTV/BET. To his credit, Sharpton has called out these rap videos today as well. But seriously, where the fuck was he before? Where the fuck was Jackson and his Rainbow Coalition, holding up signs of disgrace while protesting outside of Geffen Records? Or how about Atlantic Records? Any fucking rap-artist record company and/or producer? The bullshit hypocricy is obvious, and Jackson continues to show how fucking much he is so full of it. In closing, one of my favorite local sports op-ed writers from the KC Star, Jason Whitlock, has some very interesting things to say that support my sentiments well. And for those of you who don't know him - he's an African American who's not afraid of pulling out the race card on occasion in his commentary. I don't always agree with him, and sometimes I think he's off base with his opinions, but by and large he's got some very good points and tends to hit the local/national sports issues on the nose:

It's not all that often that I agree with you but I definately do here...
good point

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I remember when Jackson and Al Sharpton had heart attacks about the below....Even though the creator of Boondocks in Black, aweee man these two had heart attacks and Why?? Cause these two focks want to keep the brown man down!! And why is that you may ask, CAUSE IF THE BLACK MAN starts to think for himself and realize that they do not need these two FOCKWADS as their speakers.....awwwe man what a great day that will be..... but its the fucking truth and my people (Latinos) have almost fell down that path..... and you Latinos know this.... and first act is FUCK MENCIA!!! I hate that SOB....but i digress

We should all strive to be the best........

Its a shame that Imus had to open his mouth...he has done millions of $$ for charity....but the truth always comes out people....always

but this act has opened a big wound..... instead of worrying about some B.S. in the middle east. America needs to heal itself....



every time I hear this, I kind of think, what was message the Revs did not want people to hear????

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And the big irony is that John Corzine was critically wounded in a hit-and-run accident last night on his way to Rutgers to mediate Imus and whoever or whatever. Hopefully that'll put this mess in perspective. What a shame.

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Originally posted by Shakka And the big irony is that John Corzine was critically wounded in a hit-and-run accident last night on his way to Rutgers to mediate Imus and whoever or whatever. Hopefully that'll put this mess in perspective. What a shame.

damn I just heard about that.

Now Imus has his first real casualty

Judging from the number of radio shows (which admittedly are almost all conservative) and TV media heads talking, I'm beginning to wonder if this backlash will start having an adverse affect on Jackson and Sharpton. Perhaps people will begin to examine their motives a bit more closely, with much more scrutiny and see if they really mean to "take on" those hardcore racial and sexually exploitative issues that they say they will.

Of course I won't hold my breath for these opportunist scumbags. But I do hope the backlash against them continues to grow.

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with leaves all crimson conquered,
I yearn to shout,
and dance about,
and stick pickles in my honker...