I saw this in the Music News section of AG:

In yet another attempt to crackdown on raves, the House of Representatives is now considering a resolution called the, "Clean, Learn, Educate, Abolish, Neutralize, and Undermine Production (CLEAN-UP) of Methamphetamines Act of 2002."

Sponsored by Rep. Doug Ose of California, who has been an active opponent of raves and methamphetamines as part of the House's Task Force for a Drug Free America, the resolution states: "Whoever knowingly promotes any rave, dance, music, or other entertainment event, that takes place under circumstances where the promoter knows or reasonably ought to know that a controlled substance will be used or distributed in violation of Federal law or the law of the place were the event is held, shall be fined under title 18, United States Code, or imprisoned for not more than nine years, or both."

In short, if a promoter knows, or "reasonably ought to know" that drugs may be used or sold at an event, he or she could face up to nine years in prison.

The Electronic Music Defense and Education Fund opposes this resolution, saying that, if loosely interpreted, it could be applied to, "any well-attended entertainment event whether it be a rave, a concert, a major league sports game, or even a high school dance." Though the title of the act implies that it deals with methamphetamines only, the resolution never mentions any specific drug, meaning the possibility would exist for this act to affect countless events other than raves.

The EMEF also fears the resolution could cause promoters to stop allowing drug prevention organizations and harm reduction groups, such as DanceSafe, a non-profit organization that sets up at raves to test ecstasy drugs for contamination and distribute information on such topics as heat stroke, to set up at their events in fear of admitting to prior-knowledge of drug use.

As of now, this legislation is pending. However, it has been introduced to a number of committees and subcommittees in the House and already has 42 co-sponsors.

The rave crackdown is continuing in California as well. A resolution has been introduced in California Assembly that states: "Any local permit granting authority shall notify the local law enforcement agency when it is considering whether or not to grant a permit for a rave party." The resolution would also require the promoter to present evidence that he or she is "sufficiently knowledgeable about illegal drugs and drug paraphernalia."

The resolution defines a "rave party" as any dance event that may be attended by 1,000 people or more.

The EMEF also opposes this resolution, saying the wording is just too vague. How, they ask, does this resolution define "evidence," "sufficient knowledge," or even, "drug paraphernalia?" The EMDEF says, "The subjective wording of this bill and the fact that there is no specified formal procedure for the issuance of permits creates a potential for discrimination," against promoters of electronic music and dance events.

This legislation is pending as well; However as the trend towards laws that effectively shut down raves continues in our government, it will not be surprising to see both resolutions pass. What does this mean for the future of raves and electronic music in America? Says the EMEF: "This is effecting the ability of our industry's top talent to sign deals with major record labels, to tour through large venues, and generally, to remain competitive in the music business."

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Originally posted by NY1004 I saw this in the Music News section of AG: In yet another attempt to crackdown on raves, the House of Representatives is now considering a resolution called the, "Clean, Learn, Educate, Abolish, Neutralize, and Undermine Production (CLEAN-UP) of Methamphetamines Act of 2002." Sponsored by Rep. Doug Ose of California, who has been an active opponent of raves and methamphetamines as part of the House's Task Force for a Drug Free America, the resolution states: "Whoever knowingly promotes any rave, dance, music, or other entertainment event, that takes place under circumstances where the promoter knows or reasonably ought to know that a controlled substance will be used or distributed in violation of Federal law or the law of the place were the event is held, shall be fined under title 18, United States Code, or imprisoned for not more than nine years, or both." In short, if a promoter knows, or "reasonably ought to know" that drugs may be used or sold at an event, he or she could face up to nine years in prison. The Electronic Music Defense and Education Fund opposes this resolution, saying that, if loosely interpreted, it could be applied to, "any well-attended entertainment event whether it be a rave, a concert, a major league sports game, or even a high school dance." Though the title of the act implies that it deals with methamphetamines only, the resolution never mentions any specific drug, meaning the possibility would exist for this act to affect countless events other than raves. The EMEF also fears the resolution could cause promoters to stop allowing drug prevention organizations and harm reduction groups, such as DanceSafe, a non-profit organization that sets up at raves to test ecstasy drugs for contamination and distribute information on such topics as heat stroke, to set up at their events in fear of admitting to prior-knowledge of drug use. As of now, this legislation is pending. However, it has been introduced to a number of committees and subcommittees in the House and already has 42 co-sponsors. The rave crackdown is continuing in California as well. A resolution has been introduced in California Assembly that states: "Any local permit granting authority shall notify the local law enforcement agency when it is considering whether or not to grant a permit for a rave party." The resolution would also require the promoter to present evidence that he or she is "sufficiently knowledgeable about illegal drugs and drug paraphernalia." The resolution defines a "rave party" as any dance event that may be attended by 1,000 people or more. The EMEF also opposes this resolution, saying the wording is just too vague. How, they ask, does this resolution define "evidence," "sufficient knowledge," or even, "drug paraphernalia?" The EMDEF says, "The subjective wording of this bill and the fact that there is no specified formal procedure for the issuance of permits creates a potential for discrimination," against promoters of electronic music and dance events. This legislation is pending as well; However as the trend towards laws that effectively shut down raves continues in our government, it will not be surprising to see both resolutions pass. What does this mean for the future of raves and electronic music in America? Says the EMEF: "This is effecting the ability of our industry's top talent to sign deals with major record labels, to tour through large venues, and generally, to remain competitive in the music business."

your country is ran by wankers, i feel ur paun

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hahahahahaha...ya know WHY these laws are passed?
the people who pass them are old white guys, who've never even been/seen a rave, and just hear the usual rumors about them.

well, nothing is official yet, so don't get worked up.

(by the way, you should go to AG and read the responses, it's HILARIOUS. of course, someone ends up making it a religious debate... :stongue

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Originally posted by NY1004 "Clean, Learn, Educate, Abolish, Neutralize, and Undermine Production (CLEAN-UP)

ROFL! It cracks me up how they come up with these things

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Originally posted by Spad ROFL! It cracks me up how they come up with these things

I think CLEAN-UP stands for:

Crack, LSD, Ecstasy, Acid, Narcotics, Unite People.

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Complete Loada-shit Established by America's Notorious Useless President

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Originally posted by davinox hahahahahaha...ya know WHY these laws are passed? the people who pass them are old white guys, who've never even been/seen a rave, and just hear the usual rumors about them. well, nothing is official yet, so don't get worked up. (by the way, you should go to AG and read the responses, it's HILARIOUS. of course, someone ends up making it a religious debate... :stongue

That's why the "old white guys" should actually GO to a rave/party, we had this huge protest thing downtown about 2 summers ago (idance) and got a lot of the politicians to come out an see what it's like adn they voted against having a citywide crackdown against raves. Was pretty cool actually... now it's an annual event (idance)

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Originally posted by DuMonde TrAnCeR Complete Loada-shit Established by America's Notorious Useless President

nope, sorry. unfortunately this isnt SOCIALISM, so we cant blame this one on Dubya too. its definitely the ploy of some California fat cat trying to stay elected tho. as davinox said, i think, and as i saw when i was first reading it- whoever wrote the law knows nothing about raves. shit I dont know everything there is to know about them all, how would ANY of the House of Representatives know more than me tho?

IF this gets established, there will be problems when the cops end up at a botched bar mitzvah or some square dance gone completely awry, or any of the other numerous events where people MAY have drugs and anything related to them, and COULD have the vague wording enforced.

MORE LIKELY this bill will die in California and/or gain even more vague wording and other attached bullshit that weakens or makes the bill worthless.

stupid-old-white-guys/

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Originally posted by davinox well, nothing is official yet, so don't get worked up.

WRONG you should get worked up now, write your rep, and make sure that it never gets to be official law. You are prolly 18+ and have an american passport, which i do not, so you should take your right and voice your oppinion...

Right now, is the time to act against crap like that.. You need to prevent it from becoming a law ever..

sorry, i do not hold an american passport, i am here on a visa, i have no right to say anything about this.. my voice does not count

I agree entirely with drizzt81. You should act now to avoid getting stung afterwards, in which case there will be regrets flying all over the place.

I've read all about this politician anti-rave crap within the U.S. (and might I add in Canada as well, though to a lesser extent) all the time, and it sickens me with every reading. The sheer amount of ignorance and stubborness presented by this type of politician/law enforcement officer never fails to amaze me.