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aloep
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Registered: Nov 2000
Location: Dumfries & Galloway, Scotland, UK
Talking Somebody who knows a little about computers could maybe explain this.

Don't ask me why, but I've installed Windows 3.11 on this computer using the program Connectix Virtual PC.

I'm on a PC with 240 MB of RAM and a 55 GB HD running on Windows ME and 3.11 is installed in a little virtual computer inside the machine.

In my free time I'm experimenting just how far I can push 3.11, it was the first version of Windows I used with my first computer back in August 1994 so it still has a little place in my heart if you see what I mean.

Anyway, here is what it looks like:



So here's the problem I have. I'd like to set it up to connect to the net on Virtual PC but I have no idea how to do it.

Here is the information from the Help file in Virtual PC, hopefully somebody with a little more knowledge about computers will understand what all this means because I have no idea.

"Connecting with Shared Networking
To access the Internet using Shared Networking:


Set the guest PC to use Shared Networking. See: Networking Settings.
Connect to the Internet from the host PC environment, either by modem or LAN.
Launch the browser program in the guest PC environment.


All understood and done.

But it's configuring the shared networking on 3.11 to work where the problem lies. Here is the information on shared networking, I have no idea what a lot of this means:

Shared Networking on Windows
In order to use Shared Networking on Windows, the following must be true:


Guest PC networking requirement:
The guest PC must be configured to use Shared Networking.
See: Specifying networking settings

Windows network requirement:
Windows on the guest PC must be configured to automatically obtain an IP address from a DHCP server.

Note: With Shared Networking, Virtual PC acts as the DHCP server. No other DHCP server is necessary.


It's all so misleading. Can anybody guide me through this and tell me what exactly a DHCP server is and how I configure Windows 3.11 to work with it?

A lot of you will probably not understand what the hell I'm on about, but if you do, thanks for any help in advance.

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Registered: May 2001
Location: CA

i dont know how to help, but i used to use 3.11 when i got my first computer. right after i learned how to use it, they came out wiht 95, and i had to learn again, hehe, late

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all i can say is nice backgroud!!!!


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aloep
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Registered: Nov 2000
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quote:
Originally posted by liquidxxd
i dont know how to help, but i used to use 3.11 when i got my first computer. right after i learned how to use it, they came out wiht 95, and i had to learn again, hehe, late


I used 3.11 from August 1994 till April 1997 when I got a new ready made PC for some ridiculous money with Windows 95. After nearly 3 years I was so used to the style of 3.11 that I hated Windows 95 at first but now after nearly 6 years of using 95, 98 and ME I'm totally stuck to the style of it.

When I reinstalled 3.11 with Virtual PC, that's the first time I've ever seen it in nearly 6 years. I had forgot that it didn't even have a startbar but after 2 minutes of using it, everything came back to me.

I take it most people have used 3.11 at some point as it was the first Microsoft OS that people actually really used.

At a high resolution in true color mode I still think it looks quite okay, despite it being a blatantly obvious Mac clone.

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Registered: Sep 2002
Location: Sheffield, UK

I bought a 486 DX5-133 in 1996 (if i had known anything about computers when i bought it i would have bought a P-133, seems i was skanked)

That came with windows 3.11. I loved it, Best OS ever next to windows 2000.

I have used linux a few times and its utter shat. Its complicated and i never seemed to get anywhere with it and it didnt work with the hardware very well.

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CynepMeH
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Registered: Oct 2002
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Ok, since I seem to be the only geek in here...

1. Connectrix supports Networking via TCP/IP. Win 3.11 does not come with TCP/IP by default, you have to install it as a separate component

or

you can load TCP/IP in your dos net startup client.

Essentially, you'd have to get tcp/ip to work first.

BTW, I kinda went on assumption but you did install MS client components under 3.11 or dos, right?

Ok, next - if you need TCP/IP you can find it on WINNT 4 SERVER Cd in Support folder (look under clients\win311 folder - if my memory serves me right). You will also find Dos Net client in there as well which should include tcp/ip.

So, that's that. If u decide not to use TCP/IP u should go with a protocol that both OS/s share - ipx/spx,nwlink (same thing) or NetBIOS (which is not available under 2K or XP by default)

Have fun

P.S. u must enjoy pain to do this to urself.


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CynepMeH
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Registered: Oct 2002
Location: Miles away from ordinary...

Oh, forgot... connectrix does not support other protos but TCP/IP

So, get tcp/ip client for WFW (windows for warehouses) and load tcpip.

DHCP means - dynamic host configuration protocol, which means that your main computer will provide your virtual session (wfw311) with IP address. Virtual PC=dhcp client, Main pc (connectrix server)=dhcp server.

Once you find TCP/IP and load it, set it to obtain IP automatically, dns, wins, etc. you're set to go!

BTW, nice wallpaper and nice to know that I'm not the only one here using connectrix and Opera

send PM if u need more help


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Magnus
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Registered: Mar 2001
Location: Seattle, WA

I had heard about a program that allows multiple OSes to run simultaneously but now after reading this thread I know that program is Virtual PC. Is there a better product out there that does this same thing? I'm going to go and try this Virtual PC thing out right now. Being the in IT support field supporting users on many OSes, this program is going to make my life a whole lot easier.

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quote:
Originally posted by X-Multiply
I had heard about a program that allows multiple OSes to run simultaneously but now after reading this thread I know that program is Virtual PC. Is there a better product out there that does this same thing? I'm going to go and try this Virtual PC thing out right now. Being the in IT support field supporting users on many OSes, this program is going to make my life a whole lot easier.


There's also VMWare but I think it's only available for Windows NT, I'm not 100% sure but I couldn't find any for my Windows ME.

CynepMeH, PM sent.

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Registered: Feb 2003
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i believe you need windows for workgroups to do what you are doing. i havent worked w/ win3.11 in like 6 or 7 years, when i was.. we were having the computers boot to the network and load up win3.1 (none of the computers had hard drives in it). If my memory serves me right, windows for workgroups has support for tcp/ip networks. you will prob. need to load the network settings in your config.sys & autoexec.bat files. if you have a copy of norton ghost, i know that program automatically creates a network boot disk. once you have tcp/ip like mentioned above, the next steps should be pretty easy.

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Registered: Sep 2001
Location: Calgary

quote:
Originally posted by decode

I have used linux a few times and its utter shat. Its complicated and i never seemed to get anywhere with it and it didnt work with the hardware very well.


WHAT??? How dare you?

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