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Pizerz
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Registered: Oct 2004
Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Studio Monitors

Just got a quick question on studio monitors if anyone can give me a little info. I'm not insanely into producing or anything, but I do it as a hobby, and honestly I can't do shit with the garbage speakers I have.

I don't know much about SM, I'm looking to spend about 300-350, just wondering if anyone can give me any recommendations?

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DJMiakoda
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DigiNut
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And yet another studio monitor thread with the exact same budget!

I recommend a hot little item called the "Search".



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Subtle
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quote:
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echosystm
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Registered: Jul 2004
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Hey mate!
Found a few threads that might be of help.

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...hlight=monitors
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...ht=buy+monitors
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lol.
Most of those above start something like...

quote:
Originally posted by mysticalninja
Hi, I'm looking for good monitors around 300$, any recommendations?...


Or

quote:
Originally posted by stefanoc
ok i heard this at some guys studio and it didnt sound bad at all.

for its price (max. $300) it seems like its a good deal...


But that is beside the point. Read up on acoustics and speaker design, then hit the stores with a CD you know well and USE YOUR EARS to decide what to buy.

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RichieV
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Registered: Aug 2003
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don't use your ears


your ears won't know what they are looking for
Until you have alot of experience and know what to actualy listen for , go by the reviews. You aren't looking for the best sounding speeakers , you are looking for the truest speakers. So really , you should be getting the speakers that make your msusic sound the worst.

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echosystm
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Registered: Jul 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by RichieV
don't use your ears
your ears won't know what they are looking for


thats what your eyes are for

but seriously...
use your ears. its very easy to tell the difference between bad and good monitors. one has out of control bass and highs, one doesnt. if you're still confused, listen to the most expensive speakers you can find and compare to that.

listening to reviews is a sure fire way to be dissapointed in what you buy. example: krk rp5/6/8s get good reviews, but if I bought them I would probably come home and cry when I realise how shit house they are.

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G-Con
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Registered: Jun 2006
Location: England

Does anybody have any experience with the yamaha msp3's. I know they got excellent reviews in future music magazine and Computer music did a blind test on a number of monitors and said that the msp3's were brilliant.

I'm on a tight budget so cant go more expensive. Anyone used these?


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Derivative
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Registered: Jun 2004
Location: Dublin

quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
listening to reviews is a sure fire way to be dissapointed in what you buy. example: krk rp5/6/8s get good reviews, but if I bought them I would probably come home and cry when I realise how shit house they are.


I don't know why KRK Rokits get good reviews. I know I hated the RP-8 when I gave it a listen. But then, of the monitors I auditioned -they all sounded different. Dramatically so. Even monitors in the same price bracket.

I mean the ADAM P11as sound totally different to Dynaudio BM5as and you know what? I honestly don't know which is supposed to be more 'true' or which is better. They just sound different. I ended up buying Dynaudio BM5as but sometimes I kind of wish I bought the P11as instead. And vice versa.

Terms like 'flat frequency response' are bullshit, as it will never be flat in the room you are going to monitor in - which is probably going to have less than ideal acoustics and is more than likely your bedroom. It also depends on listening position. My BM5as sound totally different if I move my head a couple of inches to the left or right whilst monitoring for gawds sake.

The only advice you should heed is this:

1) It doesn't matter what speakers you get. The point is you pick a pair, and listen to them very very closely. After several months you will gradually become used to how they sound, in what frequency ranges they are deficient. You will get used to certain finnicky things like keeping your head still when you monitor. And the more professionally produced tracks you listen to and reference from, the more you will learn about what you can and can't get away with on your monitors.

Because of my ongoing problems with my BM5as I have spent several months monitoring on the free headphones you get with the guild wars special edition. These headphones suck. But there are things you can hear on them that my BM5as can't reproduce. And vice versa. So I constantly switch between the two as I'm working and somewhere in between the 2 different sounds, is the one I want. Have as many sound systems around you as possible and make it easy to switch between them because its the only way you will ever get a 'true' picture of the mixes you are making.

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Subtle
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Registered: Nov 2002
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Haha, I use my mobilephone as secondary monitors, as i transfer the track to it and listen in headphones, kinda wierd, but as im used to them I know what sounds right and what doesnt..

I just wish i could get the same good sound from my PC, but from PC soundcard there is no bass, so its impossible, with headphones.


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Registered: Jun 2004
Location: Dublin

Monitoring on shit sound systems really works. I was quite surprised. Obviously if you only monitor on a shit soundsystem then its going to be a problem but if you keep monitoring on loads of different setups you get a really good idea of what your mixes sound like in comparison to professionally mastered tunes.

I think I'm beginning to get why NS10s were so popular. Even though they were totally rubbish.

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tranceinjection
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The NS10's where just used as a refernce for home/ everyday speakers.
If the music sounded good on the Ns10s then it would sound good on all types of speakers.
The NS10's where the home hi fi speakers the cheap nasty little speakers that everyone had, they needed a set of monitors that would translate well to other speakers, hence the NS10s.
Play the music on the NS10's and if it sounded good they knew it would sound good on your speakers

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