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theognis1002
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Registered: Dec 2006
Location: Virginia, USA
Kick beat noise HELP

Hi.... I get the pitches of the 2 tracks matched up

but the incoming kickbeat drum just doesnt sound that great....

it goes like

BOOM-BOOM-BOOP-BLIP-BOOM-BLIP-BLIP-BOOM-BOOM

i know its not off or anything but it just doesnt sound BOOM BOOM BOOM consistently. i dont have to adjust it or anything and it stays on beat... it just doesnt sound consistent

and i dont have both bass eq's at 12...

when i listen to pro DJ live sets i never hear this... its always just BOOM BOOM BOOM

this is really bothering me because when i hear this... i automatically want to pitch ride it and adjust it... but when i do this... it messes it up because i didnt even need to move it...

thx for help

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RJT
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Registered: Oct 2004
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Are you sure you aren't just having issues with phasing?



That definitely sounds like a possibility to me - basically you have your kicks matched up perfectly, but each track is competing to beat the other, and they end up almost cancelling each other out (I know that's not the best description).

Does this sound like what's happening to you?


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aLviNx80
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Registered: Jan 2006
Location: San Francisco

sometimes beats don't go too well with each other even if its beatmatched perfectly.. it can cancel each other out, or like you said "boom boom blip blap blip...." you'll just have to deal with it or just don't mix those songs together.

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Glassball
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Registered: May 2006
Location: Vancouver, Canada

Are you using CDJs? And if you are, are you using master tempo? It's just a guess, but maybe this might be affecting your mix.


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Inertia
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dude. don't sweat it. are both tracks lined up? great. just kill the bass on one of them with your EQ, eventually, in your mix, swap the bass at the right time. don't slowly fade the EQs from one to the other, just swap. shouldn't give you much trouble.


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theognis1002
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Registered: Dec 2006
Location: Virginia, USA

i have stanton 303s...
too poor for a pioneer

ok thx guys

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jupiterone
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Registered: Dec 2004
Location: los angeles

As said, even if two beats are lined up 100% to sync it doesn't always mean the kicks will go down like a chocolate shake.

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Dojomaster26
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Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Hickory

I've been having this problem too, and I can't cover it up because my ****** Ion mixer only has a master EQ

Is this kind of sound a signal that the songs are not harmonically in tune? I'd like to learn how to keep my mix on the same key...


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CACHO
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Registered: Mar 2007
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quote:
Originally posted by Dojomaster26
I'd like to learn how to keep my mix on the same key...

This might help a bit... MixedInKey.com

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nefardec
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Registered: Oct 2004
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i would say it's definitely a phasing issue - if you have two similar strong kicks you're going to get negative interference. just keep the levels on the bass lopsided at all times for tracks like this

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richg101
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Registered: Apr 2005
Location: a universal nation

this effect is usually due to super accurate mixing. and the kicks are cancelling eachother out. i personally like hearing this effect in a club because it reminds you that the dj is human and not just a jukebox.

as someone earlier said, just make sure you only ever have one track's lows playing at once. cut the bass on one of them so it cannot interfere with the other. find the right place to then swap them over within half a second, maybe during a part where a beat is missed on one of the tracks.

i recently did a dj mix on cubase and because the beats were so perfectly synced i found this cancelling effect happened on almost every transition. so i decided to sidechain compress the kick on the outgoing track to a kickdrum running at the same bpm. this worked awsome during transition cos then you get to cut the kickdrum but keep the lows from the bass.


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Jarvmeister
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Registered: May 2001
Location: Trancentral

quote:
Originally posted by RJT
Are you sure you aren't just having issues with phasing?



That definitely sounds like a possibility to me - basically you have your kicks matched up perfectly, but each track is competing to beat the other, and they end up almost cancelling each other out (I know that's not the best description).

Does this sound like what's happening to you?


^^^^^ This is whats happening. Let the speculation end!

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