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HardTranceProd
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Release groups, the scene, etc.

For those who, like me, have been wondering how release groups work, the following might be an interesting read:

http://www.aboutthescene.com

This is something I found while researching the subject. But there is one thing the site doesn't explain. How do release groups get their hands on all the latest vinyl? How do they know what the latest stuff is, including promos, that they have to rip?

There must be some sort of a central DJ pool where the releases get sent, is that right? experts, please clarify

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Oh my...


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HardTranceProd
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Oh my...


there is freedom of speech on this forum.

It may be illegal to share files, but it's perfectly legal to talk about this phenomenon

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Actually I was talking about this "interesting" site of yours. I don't know if it's the translation I'm reading but it's quite... hilarious.


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What is the scene?

The scene aka the warez scene is the pretty unknown worldwide network where people trade pirated goods ....


lol @ pretty unknown.

Maybe from 1983-1996.


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HardTranceProd
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If you have a better explanation of how it all works, do feel free to post here.

Until then, that's the clearest guide I've found to date.

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a ripper buys music like any other consumer.


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i never made top clique in "the scene" with my warez cracks/timebombs. if only there had been a mass circulation of warez during the dail-up days.

same with ripping Gus Gus- Purple (sasha r) = double


anyways, i think it's the same with vinyl as with movies. People are legally given the material, then a "friend of a friend" asks for a rip and then it gets shared across the internet.
For movies, it would either be theater personel getting their hands on the reels, taking it home over night, ripping, and returning in the morning.
In the case of Screener Discs, this would be a prime example.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carmine_Caridi


I remember Ferry said Ligaya had been pressed on vinyl (during the pre-release stage) for "only 50 lucky DJs". Within 2 days, a perfect rip was available on the internet.

I think there's a lot more theft on the inside of the distribution companies than outside people breaking into their stores/HQs/studios and sneaking out with "the copy"


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quote:
Originally posted by Psy-T
a ripper buys music like any other consumer.


No... if that were the case, then all the members of the group would have to be on the constant lookout for what's going to be released officially that day... and they'd have to have a list of the labels they're "monitoring"...

Highly unlikely, because there are hundreds of labels and even more whitelabel/promo material. How do they hear about all that? And more importantly, how can they physically get the vinyl so quickly?

And what about pre/0-day? Also "any other consumer"?

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quote:
Originally posted by HardTranceProd
No... if that were the case, then all the members of the group would have to be on the constant lookout for what's going to be released officially that day... and they'd have to have a list of the labels they're "monitoring"...

Highly unlikely, because there are hundreds of labels and even more whitelabel/promo material. How do they hear about all that? And more importantly, how can they physically get the vinyl so quickly?


juno & local shops (especially if you live in germany or england) really are enough for all the electronic content you see anywhere (and more).

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And what about pre/0-day? Also "any other consumer"?


very rare nowadays, a few years back when they were more common the responsible parties were often djs (not particularily successful ones, just a guy with a residancy - in other words, enough to join a promo pool) themselves.


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