there was a thread on the ableton forms that was 'things you wish you learned years ago'

i really wished i learned about group chaining in ableton... never have i had so much fun sidechaining certain frequencies of my bass/pad/whatever while leaving the rest unchainged.

i'll put on something like IQ, split the sound into 4 "knomes" of sound, fx the frequncies i want WITHOUT the use of a buss. i've never been able to achieve cool rhythmic patterns like this in my life.

cool thread.

listen to genres of music you would never imagine yourself listening to, and listen closely to the production quality and the way they do fills and effects and mixdowns.

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Originally posted by Zombie0729 there was a thread on the ableton forms that was 'things you wish you learned years ago' i really wished i learned about group chaining in ableton... never have i had so much fun sidechaining certain frequencies of my bass/pad/whatever while leaving the rest unchainged. i'll put on something like IQ, split the sound into 4 "knomes" of sound, fx the frequncies i want WITHOUT the use of a buss. i've never been able to achieve cool rhythmic patterns like this in my life. cool thread.

do you have a link to that thread by any chance? i searched to no avail.

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Use EQ you don't think will work
Sidechain everything to see if it sounds good
layer up every single sound you make and put the different effects on the duplicate layer
there is no standard way to make any music although, be as mad and original as you can and you might just stumble on grooves

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heres something i did i never imagined producing its intresting something i threw together at work on shoddy ass laptop speakers here this shit

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here's the ableton thread you're talking about, made by yours truly =P

http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=56637&highlight=

Edited because I forgot to include the link

i was kinda looking for more specific things that were sort of new and cutting edge. Like if you have a specific thing you do or something you know someone else does , that is pretty cutting edge and well hasn't really ever been done before, then tell us about it. This thread isn't , well it doesn't have to be , just for me. I know that it involves people having to do work but like i stated , i was willing to share information on things i'm really good.

So ya , i'm really not looking for advice. I just think having a thread containing specific ideas about new concepts would be nice. And the whole idea of asking is so that i don't have to go listen to a million hours of music for something i might never come across unless someone just mentions it.

do you really think that by knowing cutting edge production techniques it will help you get to that killer track?

If the midi's are wrong and the instruments are wrong and the groove is wrong then no cutting edge techniques will really help.

If however you are at the top of your game and know most of it already and just want to know more advanced techniques then fair enough.

http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewto...8fadf80d451a8e0

this is for ableton but most of the tips and tricks mentioned here can be applied to any DAW

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I believe that practice and knowing your tools is essential.
The better you know your tools the easier you can translate your ideas into music.

a serious question:

why would anybody share thier hard earned secrets with a bunch of relativly unknown people?

i duno...

personally, i have nothing to share, but i do have my own little techniques and i think they only work for me because it's these little things that define my sound...

why would i share that? so honestly, do you guys like giving your little secrets away?

(im not advocating selfishness btw, im glad to help ppl out if they have SPECIFIC questions not covered in the forums/google...)

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Originally posted by ASFSE a serious question: why would anybody share thier hard earned secrets with a bunch of relativly unknown people? i duno... personally, i have nothing to share, but i do have my own little techniques and i think they only work for me because it's these little things that define my sound... why would i share that? so honestly, do you guys like giving your little secrets away? (im not advocating selfishness btw, im glad to help ppl out if they have SPECIFIC questions not covered in the forums/google...)

most of the people who started producing with these instruments wish they only had a forum like this to discuss.

if you notice all the seasoned people on KVR answer such vague questions with such long answers its becuase it took them years to figure out all this stuff and their simply giving back because we've ALL taken ideas, themes, programming a step further from each other.

most producers dont look at each other like competition, although music is a business the artists are tradiationally very open about their creative process.

and think too... lets say i know a lot about synth programming but not a lot about percussion and rhythmic diliations. sharing our knowledge is only going to escalate both of us incredibly quickly.