The romanian market isn't very wide so the choises in my price range are:

- event alp 5
- alesis m1 mk2
- m-audio bx5
- rokit rp5
- behriger 2031a

anyone using one of the above?

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Go and listen to them yourself, side by side. If you listen to any of us on here, you will be disapointed in what you buy.

For example, a lot of people told me to buy KRKs. They sounded absolute shit and I bought Events instead (same price). HOWEVER, in the USA, KRKs are significantly cheaper than the Events I bought, hence their popularity on this forum.

Now, no monitor you listen to will be perfect. There is no such thing as a perfectly flat monitor. Also, there is no such thing as a perfect listening area. You need to get the ones you like the best, and you think are the most revealing, and LEARN them inside out. Learn how they translate to other speakers, car speakers, club systems, etc.

If you know the speakers well enough, you can just about mix on anything.

Mixing is a job. Listening and enjoying the music is where coloration in the speakers is allowed. Otherwise you will need to get monitors with good flat response.

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Originally posted by camsr Mixing is a job. Listening and enjoying the music is where coloration in the speakers is allowed. Otherwise you will need to get monitors with good flat response.

i thought it was clear i'm gonna using them for production/mixin

@echosystm...i'll go out and listen to them before

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Originally posted by djsphere The romanian market isn't very wide so the choises in my price range are: - event alp 5 - alesis m1 mk2 - m-audio bx5 - rokit rp5 - behriger 2031a anyone using one of the above?

First off a very warm "hi there" to everyone here at TA.

To your question:
I wouldn't use anything out the ones you mentioned above.
If you're very short on budget you could consider the Yamaha Hs80 or Prodipe Pro8.

As long as you don't have a excellent room for a subwoofer-system i would only consider monitors with an 8" woofer, 6" or even 5" without a sub are too small for electronic musicproduction (maybe Genelec 8040 are alright without a ausb but they are a exception).

And above all, you should test them in your room.

If you can stretch your budget you should clearly aim for Adam A7. Nothing better in that league by very far.

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Originally posted by John Doe First off a very warm "hi there" to everyone here at TA. To your question: I wouldn't use anything out the ones you mentioned above. If you're very short on budget you could consider the Yamaha Hs80 or Prodipe Pro8. As long as you don't have a excellent room for a subwoofer-system i would only consider monitors with an 8" woofer, 6" or even 5" without a sub are too small for electronic musicproduction (maybe Genelec 8040 are alright without a ausb but they are a exception). And above all, you should test them in your room. If you can stretch your budget you should clearly aim for Adam A7. Nothing better in that league by very far.

Adam A7 have a 6" (6.5... same thing) woofer man... They are good, but you just shot yourself in the foot saying 6" isn't enough haha.

Also, you clearly have no idea what you're talking about, since the crossovers used in most budget 8" speakers are absolute shit. Good luck getting any decent midrange out of a budget cone thats putting all its effort into producing deep bass!

You are actually far better off having a proper mid bass woofer and using a dedicated sub. But, that also has it's complications. 6" is a good trade off, hence why alot of popular monitors use them (BM5a, adam A7, etc.). Above 6", you have to go into a 3 way design to get awesome mids, unless using really high quality components - which you wont get at this end of the market.

Similarly, ones listening environment may not be suitable (and often isnt) for 8" drivers.

Welcome to TA

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Originally posted by camsr Mixing is a job. Listening and enjoying the music is where coloration in the speakers is allowed. Otherwise you will need to get monitors with good flat response.

So NS-10s would have to be pretty much the most uncoloured speaker ever?

Nigga plz. Your room is going to boost the crap out of random frequencies anyway, so +/- 1.5db linearity doesnt mean thats what you hear.

Flatness is a lie, translation is everything. If you understand where things are being boosted, you can compensate for them. This is why BT can mix on BX5s and countless records have been produced on NS-10s even though theyre both "bad". That said, you can't mix what isnt there. With that in mind I would lean towards a 6" as opposed to those 5"ers.

A NS10 isn't a NS10 isn't a NS10.

They are so dependent on the amp they're driven by.
and if you take a serious amp like a bryston 3b or even 4b, you are well over 2000$ with an NS10 setup. But people who use NS10 are just "mixing" on them, that means a great effort was done before in the "production" stage, where they already made the crucial decisions about the sound.
Ns10 are great for balancing and making the mids sitting right.

So you compare apples and oranges.

And believe me, those inwall-speakers in all good studios are not only for decoration they are essential, as much as a good pair of nearfields (as Adam S3a).

And I wouldn't even think one minute that BT uses BX5 at all, even if he does then not excusivly. He endorses the M-audio stuff and gets money from them (he advertises them), and you are by no means a victim of that as you believe in it ;-)

And monitors are for revealing at least as much important as traslation. How can something translate right when you don't hear half of the crap thats "translating".

Think about it.

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I just purchased genelec 8040a's. I listened to the adams. and the mid/upper range was a bit harsh. Now i believe this to be because of the ribbon tweeter which has a characteristic sound that im not used to.

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Originally posted by djsphere anyone using one of the above?

I use the Alesis M1 mkII actives. I can recommend them if you don't want to spend alot of money.
There are better monitors out there, but they're good bang for the buck and they work great for me.

I think it just depends on how they sound to you, ive always thought the flatter the response the better for mixing. in response needing more than 8" woofers.. I have two EventTR6's they work great now that i have gotten used to them and I only payed like 300 american for them. I think the best advice is listen to them side by side and if you can listen to them in your room even better. just my 2cents

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