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Jayx1
Prime Minister of TOTA
Registered: Feb 2003
Location: The Socialist People's Republic Of Canada
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| quote: | Originally posted by Turntabulls
did the police say they were going do something to prevent this in the future? |
apparently the bylaw that actually allows the police to fine these guys was overturned last year. The cop told me that the city is fighting to appeal the decision. However, he said that in no way does that justify the ticket. It's no different than me issuing you a ticket because you went into my backyard. Obviously it has no legal standing.
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May-24-2007 16:44
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Jayx1
Prime Minister of TOTA
Registered: Feb 2003
Location: The Socialist People's Republic Of Canada
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| quote: | Originally posted by rabbitjoker
This has been posted before. |
My experience hasnt as it happened yesterday.Either way it deserves to be posted again. The more people who are made aware/reminded of this, the less these parking pirates will get away with it.
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May-24-2007 17:44
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MarkT
Automatic Static

Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Toronto
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| quote: | Originally posted by rabbitjoker
This has been posted before. |
indeed...old news...but many people may not know their rights and be intimidated by the tow driver and/or impound lot employees.
the tickets are not "illegal", they just are not enforceable.
it's akin to parking your car on someone else's driveway. They have the legal right to remove it. In the case of private parking lots, they also have the right to remove your car (contrary to what that cop told you, Jay, AFAIK, unless the law has changed on removing cars from private property). They generally sign a contract with a tow company who removes cars that don't have paid parking tickets displayed. What IS shady is trying to charge you $100+ to recover your car.
BY LAW, the tow company/impound lot MUST release the car to you AT NO CHARGE, providing you produce ownership + ID (driver's lic). They will then send the ticket/tow charge to a collection agency if you don't pay it. This is apparently legal. You can pay it or have a collection agency contact you and eventually post it to Equifax and it will show on your credit bureau for 6 years, which fucks your credit score HARD.
You can dispute it, take it up with Equifax, etc...but good luck with that.
Essentially, it's a civil matter and the company would have to sue you in small claims court, which they rarely (if ever) will do...probably due to costs and because they know that no judge will side with them for the exorbitant amount they charge for the tow and storage (i.e. it's unjustifiable to charge well over $100 for what amounts to under 30 min. unskilled labour to tow and for a loss of $5-$15 in parking revenue).
it happened to me ~7-8 years ago and continues to go on to this day, it seems! at the time, the storage facility refused to release the car until I called the cops who had to show up. The impound employees are complete assholes.
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May-24-2007 18:08
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Arsalan
debsh - toronto

Registered: Nov 2002
Location: Toronto
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| quote: | Originally posted by MarkT
indeed...old news...but many people may not know their rights and be intimidated by the tow driver and/or impound lot employees.
the tickets are not "illegal", they just are not enforceable.
it's akin to parking your car on someone else's driveway. They have the legal right to remove it. In the case of private parking lots, they also have the right to remove your car (contrary to what that cop told you, Jay, AFAIK, unless the law has changed on removing cars from private property). They generally sign a contract with a tow company who removes cars that don't have paid parking tickets displayed. What IS shady is trying to charge you $100+ to recover your car.
BY LAW, the tow company/impound lot MUST release the car to you AT NO CHARGE, providing you produce ownership + ID (driver's lic). They will then send the ticket/tow charge to a collection agency if you don't pay it. This is apparently legal. You can pay it or have a collection agency contact you and eventually post it to Equifax and it will show on your credit bureau for 6 years, which fucks your credit score HARD.
You can dispute it, take it up with Equifax, etc...but good luck with that. |
i sit next to the equifax team that handle mostly southern ontario, any one need something ?
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