Two examples:

Kris Menace: Lumberjack
Kris Menace: Fairlight

These tracks are incredibly difficult to mix because they either have an irregular/short intro or a quick fading outro or both.

Why would you produce a track like that and deliberately decrease the chances of people playing it? I can mix it - it just doesn't sound great and I'd never do it in a risky situation.

Jarv

might be a try to sound unique...not enough experience...sometimes some sequencers have timing issues...can be whatever you name...

some track just are difficult to mix...get used to it...

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Originally posted by Jarvmeister Two examples: Kris Menace: Lumberjack Kris Menace: Fairlight These tracks are incredibly difficult to mix because they either have an irregular/short intro or a quick fading outro or both. Why would you produce a track like that and deliberately decrease the chances of people playing it? I can mix it - it just doesn't sound great and I'd never do it in a risky situation. Jarv

Why not add your own touch by re-editing the track. Or simply open an editor, loop the intro and outro for a while, save, and voila.

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This is what separates the decent dj's from the GOOD dj's. Go have a listen to some classic trance stuff. Almost none of them are really DJ friendly.

and listen to old school dj mixes and you'll see it's hardly necessary to have perfectly matching track segments for cookie cutter transitions

i have always been resentful of people who make tracks that fade out. now that i have a small studio set up, i can fix that for some songs...

to me, trance, house, techno, jungle, etc is dj music, pure and simple.

what is the point of fading out tracks anyways? i put money down on a record, i want to play it how ever i want to hear it. fading out the track at then places a restriction on that freedom. nothing kills my horny faster than using the end of track to build up the next track, then first tracks dies out (fades out) and takes that energy away with it.

someone needs to remind these jerks that fade out their tracks that every dj mixer in the world has faders, we don't need them to do it for us. i don't care about their production style... -that's up to the producer, and has nothing to do w/me... what ever they do, how ever they start, or end a track, i can deal with it... just leave the fading to me, the dj. thx

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Originally posted by nefardec and listen to old school dj mixes and you'll see it's hardly necessary to have perfectly matching track segments for cookie cutter transitions

Totally true. Personally, i prefer mixes with slight imperfections. It makes it more of a real live performance. Rock bands never sound as good in concert as on CD, but their performances are great because they go up there full of energy and jam their asses off. The same thing goes for DJ's. So many Ableton mixes sound so cold and have completely cookie-cutter mixing.

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Actually I don't like senseless intros and outros.
It feels like it's not part of the song.
I've been listening to a lot of Psy-trance lately and you can listen songs from the begining to the end. That is awesome, they create complete songs without the "Obvious senseless bum bum at the beginning and at the end"

I knwo the music it's supposed to be mixable, but still you are creating a song, if you wan to create a masterpiece, then you should forget about the senseless bum-bum. It should be a "song" from the beginning 'till the end.

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I usually don't let much of the intro/outro play anyway. I even like cueing tracks with two breakdowns on the phrase after the first breakdown.

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Originally posted by Pinokio I knwo the music it's supposed to be mixable, but still you are creating a song, if you wan to create a masterpiece, then you should forget about the senseless bum-bum. It should be a "song" from the beginning 'till the end.

yes but u still want to make a track that the big djs will want to play to give u exposure

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What a retarded question.

The guy is an artist, first and foremost artists make tracks for people to LISTEN to!

In our line of work, secondly, they make them to play/be played out by themselves and other DJs, ultimately though, to gain recognition for their track.

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