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xtrecoolx
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Registered: Sep 2005
Location: Ankara
Shame / Disagreement Wrong beatmaching guides

Hi,
I am not pro or anything in this but I would like to point out that beatmatching guides found overall in net are copied from each other and basically missing important information about transition phase. In the guides I've read so far people talk about how to count BPM and cueing, but little about transition phase. Basically they say once the BPM matches you start the transition and everything should work fine. On contrary, I believe thats when the situation gets tricky. I would like to give the following example:
Two tracks A and B. A is 135 BPM and live, B(cued) is in loop and you matched with A. Now when I start the transition they both go fine and sometimes I make small speed up/down modifications by my hand. No problem here, however when I remove the loop from B and song in B really starts to shape then it becomes harder to maintain synchronization. Can you guys please explain and share your thoughts about this? What shall be done in this case?

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Jarvmeister
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This is due to your loop having, for example, a BPM of 128.34, but when you bring it out of loop it has a BPM of 128.45.

I never use loops on the CDJs because even though they sound like they're right on, when you take them out of loop it's evident that they're not.

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xtrecoolx
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You might be right but this does not mean that without looping they will perfectly match. I think there is still a lot of correction needed. On A or B...and i don't really know where to look at

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Jarvmeister
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I am right. You can prove it by having a copy of the exact same track in both players and that'll explain the science of it all.....

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DiscoStew
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Registered: Mar 2007
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One thing that you can do that works out well for me on my CDJ-800s is have the loop you're using have an end point that is immediately before the track punches in with a heavy bass line or synth or something. When you you want to come out of the loop, cut track A quickly and completely and punch the lows in B.

Try it out and let me know how it goes.


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sleepydragon
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Registered: Oct 2003
Location: doncaster, england

why do people loop to beatmatch anyway? i never do it whats wrong with pressing cue and going back to the cue point.


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Zild
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I was wondering the same thing myself. The only time I loop is if I'm running out of time, and that never happens.


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Spoonz
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Registered: Mar 2007
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as already said, the track u are cueing, play it to beatmatch, not play a loop. not accurate enough!

if u still can't get it just accept u are turd


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Registered: Oct 2004
Location: Huntington Beach, CA

i like to loop breakdowns sometimes just to layer some extra sounds during the intro of a track i just transitioned into

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ThatsMagic
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Registered: Dec 2005
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ah you guys worry too much about the technical side just mix it when u want practice and a bit of luck will make it sound good.

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Mmanu
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Blame it on a lack of practise, not the internet tutorials

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Allayla
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Registered: Mar 2005
Location: AZ

Keep practicing, before you know it you will be replying to a similiar thread with a condensending post like the rest of us arrogant assholes.


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