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OLi_A
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: sydney
commercialism?

personally i would hate for trance to go commercial in australia but why do i (and most others) think this?
is it because we want to have this little genre to ourselves?
i know that i would love to have more ppl around me to talk about trance to but if it goes mainstream i might look elsewhere because thats what ive done in the past
i know when r&b went mainstream here i felt it lost that something so i ditched it, but thats just me. tell me what you think about htis


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jeronemango
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Registered: May 2001
Location: Brisbane

trance going commercial in australia ,, i dont think so,, it comes and goes like when ATB 9pm came out everyone was into this cheesy shite i dont call that trance,, when someone asks me what i listen to they will always answer with "ahhh that darude,atb style" i just laugh and give them a tiesto ,corsten cd and say thats what im on about then they usually get hooked.. ive converted many of my friends to trance and they cant get enough.. i dont think its a concern as only cheesy stuff is geting air play at the moment... Australia is not like europe,, over there its a tradition here its not.. there are to many beer drinking band lovers over here ...

the only good thing about trance breaking through would be more dj tours down here,, sure we get big names but it would be nice if some well known djs were resident djs over here ..

Old Post Apr-12-2002 09:08  Australia
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I wouldn't like trance to go commercial in Australia. I've always maintained that if a certain style of music were to become part of the mainstream, it would lose a certain quality about it. I don't know whether the music itself actually deteriorates to cheesy shite by being commercial; or if this is just a psychological matter, and I just think that the music is crap because it’s commercial... But, being a school student, I am exposed to many pop fiends I think quality trance would be wasted on anyway. I guess they are the people who my friends and I consider ‘beyond education’. That’s just my way of thinking though...eheh...

I’ve converted some friends to dance... but not trance, not many of them know what trance is. But, yes, when I do come across the occasional trance addict, I get quite excited.

Hmmm... yes, I can see the advantages of trance becoming more popular. Resident DJs would be brilliant!

Anyway... that’s just my point of view.

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Tak
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Registered: Mar 2002
Location: Perth, Australia
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trance shouldn't go commoercial, it'll ruin the image with crap songs (PPK - Ressuerection), keep it underground where it should be.
let the ignorant live in bliss.
let the rightious ever go forth knowing that they are truley the rightious.


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Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Australia - Perth

i think as far as electronic music goes, trance and house are the two genres that cross over the most with commercial music... u can see that with songs like ressurection, better off alone, saltwater...

theres always been that stigma attatched to trance by lovers of "underground" electro music (drum and bass, breaks..) that trance is cheese cos its melodic, and that pisses me off quite frankly.

trance wont go mainstream... most ppl cant stand the DOOF DOOF DOOF DOOF of the bass...


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Old Post Apr-13-2002 13:19  Australia
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euphoria attack
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Registered: Mar 2001
Location: melbourne, australia

atm, the idea most people have of trance is darude/atb - ie commercial crap

so i suppose in a way it is already commercialised which is not nice

but that's becuase nobody has listened to the real trance yet (goa,psy) hehh

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zoy
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: melbourne

if trance goes commercial or not really makes no difference, if u like trance u like it for the music, not the scene, or the culture.
dont matter what sort of trance u listen to, if it goes commercial well hey, so ur gona here the music on the radio, if u liked the music u wont really care, but if u liked it coz it was underground, and we alll know its soooo cool to be underground, then u really dont like the music, u just like the scene.
so if ur worried about commercialism, well then, go find something else that is coooooool and underground !
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Xavier
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Registered: Jan 2001
Location: Sydney, Australia

quote:
Originally posted by zoy
it coz it was underground, and we alll know its soooo cool to be underground, then u really dont like the music, u just like the scene.
so if ur worried about commercialism, well then, go find something else that is coooooool and underground !
=)


never trance & underground till I die! Thank God teeny boppers have only heard of producers Darude, ATB, Sash, Iio and those poofter prodcuers Safri Duo, Kosheen.

And f*ck channel 9 and channel 7 for playing my favourite Ferry Corsten remix ie William Orbit - Barber's Adagio For Strings. And radio stations for playing the Ferry Corsten remix of Catch. ASSHOLES!

Thank God the rest of Ferry Corsten's productions are out of 13 to 16 year old's hands.

F*CK you boppers and bopper djs!

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Pointy
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Registered: Jan 2001
Location: Melbourne, Australia

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Originally posted by Xavier

Thank God the rest of Ferry Corsten's productions are out of 13 to 16 year old's hands.



Lol, fuck you
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There's nothin wrong with cheesy trance being played on the radio, it's always going to happen because the majority of trance songs played on the radio, were created with commercialism in mind. It's good that there are these songs because it puts people off the un-commercial stuff as its too hard for them (comparing it to the shit thats on the radio).

Not sure if all of that makes sense to any of you, but it does to me, heheh


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datastream
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Registered: Mar 2002
Location: Brisbane

I dont see why it is a bad thing. I mean there will always be new things that will come along and replace it in the mainstream.

I look at it this way. If trance gets popular we might actually see more decent trance DJ's heading up our way at a regular intervals. Now that would be a benifit that I would not mind.

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Philby
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Melbourne, Australia

I have to say I don't agree with some of the comments made here. Why would you complain if you hear trance played on radio or for a promo on a TV station? Maybe the people who made the promo heard the track and they think it suits the ad or the program it is in. Maybe somebody who watches it thinks they like the song. Maybe they buy a cd, or they tell someone about it and they find out about the music. I heard sandstorm by darude on radio and saw it on video hits, I bought the single and guess what? I like trance music now. I bought other stuff as well. Sometimes I almost cringe when I hear songs on the radio like alligator project or something like that, because I don't particularly like it. But again, someone might think its ok, and find out there is a whole world of good music for them to listen too! I don't really agree with making any kind of music just for money or fame, not because you are expressing something or trying to tell how you feel but at the same time it seems to me that there are people clinging to a security blanket of being 'underground' and proud that you are into a kind of music that isn't as popular as well... pop music. I mean how do people say things like its shit if its on radio or commercialism is bad, have you always liked trance? Have you always known about it? Did you find out about it and love it, and now what? Its like you are trying to stop others from loving it too! I think I'm running out of steam here and words to type, but I hope I've got my message across!!


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arkhan
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Registered: Nov 2000
Location: Melbourne

yeh well im not too sure why everyone wants trance to be this closeted underground sound mmms i cant see what could possibly be wrong with tunes that manage to make radio airplay or onto tv ads...artists deserve exposure for the music they so carefully craft...i think its kind of cool that for example Veracocha - Carte Blanche is used by FoxFm for its Black Thunder station promos

the natural progression to more commercialism or mainstream awareness provides for increased artist recognition and appreciation...and there's definitely nothing wrong with that!

it simply represents a greater acceptance amongst the wider community and an awareness of where such a unique sound seems appropriate for whatever use etc and for every non classy formulaic type tune that attempts to cash in on a burgeoning market there will always remain quality tunes...mmm

and as been said before... trance will never replace pop/top40 music since people cant stand the d00f d00f even if trance has the sweet melodies...

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