Below is section 1 of the order.

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Section 1. (a) Except to the extent provided in section 203(b)(1), (3), and (4) of IEEPA (50 U.S.C. 1702(b)(1), (3), and (4)), or in regulations, orders, directives, or licenses that may be issued pursuant to this order, and notwithstanding any contract entered into or any license or permit granted prior to the date of this order, all property and interests in property of the following persons, that are in the United States, that hereafter come within the United States, or that are or hereafter come within the possession or control of United States persons, are blocked and may not be transferred, paid, exported, withdrawn, or otherwise dealt in: any person determined by the Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the Secretary of State and the Secretary of Defense, (i) to have committed, or to pose a significant risk of committing, an act or acts of violence that have the purpose or effect of: (A) threatening the peace or stability of Iraq or the Government of Iraq; or (B) undermining efforts to promote economic reconstruction and political reform in Iraq or to provide humanitarian assistance to the Iraqi people; (ii) to have materially assisted, sponsored, or provided financial, material, logistical, or technical support for, or goods or services in support of, such an act or acts of violence or any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order; or (iii) to be owned or controlled by, or to have acted or purported to act for or on behalf of, directly or indirectly, any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order. (b) The prohibitions in subsection (a) of this section include, but are not limited to, (i) the making of any contribution or provision of funds, goods, or services by, to, or for the benefit of any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order, and (ii) the receipt of any contribution or provision of funds, goods, or services from any such person. http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/rele...20070717-3.html

This has gone completely unnoticed by the mainstream media. Except for the UK Guardian that published an fluffy article saying the order is nothing to worry about and will only be used on terrorists. I think thats pretty broad fucking language for who it can be used on. This administration definitely doesn't have the track record with honesty and integrity for me to trust them to use it responsibly.

Welcome to Nazi America.

Oh boy, the thread I posted recently on upcoming events in USA is becoming more and more evident ... huge terrorist attacks are surely coming I think.

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Originally posted by josh4 This has gone completely unnoticed by the mainstream media. Except for the UK Guardian that published an fluffy article saying the order is nothing to worry about and will only be used on terrorists. I think thats pretty broad fucking language for who it can be used on. This administration definitely doesn't have the track record with honesty and integrity for me to trust them to use it responsibly.

you lack a track record for unbiased and rational thought. i mean, you exist soley in a world of imminent police state paranoia.

for God's sake, you're insinuating that even the UK Gaurdian dismissing this as "fluff" has something to hide here that the entire MSM won't give a second thought to.

of course, once Josh4 has convinced himself in his own little world, the entire MSM is no longer relevant. unless it caters to his paranoid worldview

did it ever occur to you that maybe the MSM is dismissing this as alarmist because it's nothing to be alarmed about?

i'm sure you think everyone that doesn't have your social "clarity" are sheep. i beg to differ.

I think most people who don't have their heads in the the sand know that we're kinda fucked, and I don't include any of the rationalist idiots (read as most) on this forum in that category.

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I think it's time to buy a few weapons no?

Romanian AK-47's for $500, and Yugoslavian rifles for less than $200. Ex-Soviet Eastern bloc countries have cheap weapons for sale. Protect yourselves!

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Originally posted by Q5echo you lack a track record for unbiased and rational thought. i mean, you exist soley in a world of imminent police state paranoia. for God's sake, you're insinuating that even the UK Gaurdian dismissing this as "fluff" has something to hide here that the entire MSM won't give a second thought to. of course, once Josh4 has convinced himself in his own little world, the entire MSM is no longer relevant. unless it caters to his paranoid worldview did it ever occur to you that maybe the MSM is dismissing this as alarmist because it's nothing to be alarmed about? i'm sure you think everyone that doesn't have your social "clarity" are sheep. i beg to differ.

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JON CARROLL Jon Carroll Monday, July 9, 2007 I really, really want to be a member of the Bush administration. I wish I'd realized what a cool job it was earlier, but there's still time. Let's look at the perks. For one thing, I could get a nickname. I've never had a nickname. It could be Jon-Boy or Mr. Toasty or Smallfoot -- the president does not have a flair for nicknames, only a penchant -- but quality is not really the issue. I mean, Scooter is a dopey nickname, and yet Scooter Libby still got to be the assistant to the Eater of Worlds. He would still hold that job had he not been caught lying. That's another thing I could do as a member of the Bush administration: I could lie. I could lie to Congress and the FBI and pretty much everybody, knowing the president had my back. If I ever got caught (not likely), brought to trial (less likely) and convicted (heh!), I'd just have to wait until after the sentencing and get a pardon or a commutation or a surgical extraction from a minimum-security prison. And, if all that fails, I'd still have the Supreme Court on my side. Scalia could write an opinion explaining that it was never the intention of the framers of the Constitution for me to go to jail. Heck, they didn't even know me. If I were a lawyer, I might worry that a felony conviction would hamper my ability to practice law. But then I would remember: I haven't practiced law in 30 years. I could become a lobbyist and hang out with my friends, or I could just retire with my ill-gotten gains. Another advantage of being a member of the Bush administration: ill-gotten gains. And suppose I were to invite a pig to a meeting of my top aides. If some disaffected ex-employee mentioned my habit of bringing pigs into the room, I could say that I have no recollection of any pig in the room. When faced with evidence to the contrary, I could say that, although I have no memory of a pig being in the room, I now accept that there was a pig in the room. All I remember about the meeting was the cookies in the center of the table. Apparently, the pig also remembered the cookies. Eventually, I might have to resign to spend more time with my family. But I like spending time with my family. It's pretty much a win-win for me. The best part of being a member of the Bush administration is that I could do anything I wanted. Suppose I want to dig a gold mine in Colorado. (I like gold.) Congress might pass the No Digging for Gold in Colorado Act, but then the president would issue a secret signing statement saying that the administration reserved the right to dig for gold in Colorado if it were an issue of national security. Then I would subcontract the actual digging part to a private enterprise, which would charge twice what it actually cost, but I would not care because the government would be paying for it. This is an important part of being part of the Bush administration: remembering that I hate the government, even though I am part of the government. The thing I really hate is taxes. I want taxes to be so low that they cover only the costs of whatever war my administration wants to fight, plus pay my mining people. The rest of it: Hey, isn't that why we have faith-based private organizations? They take up the slack. They fill the need. The government doesn't fill the need; it just digs the holes. If things got really hot for me, I just could declare that I was a separate branch of government. The Department of Gold and Wars, which I head, is not really part of the executive branch because my duties include "laying down the law" to insubordinate underlings, which clearly falls within the purview of the legislative branch. So, actually, no laws at all apply to me at any time, ever, and I am free to kill any celebrities who annoy me. Finally, I would get to appoint my friends to stuff. Are you my friend? Would you like to be a federal prosecutor? How about an inspector of mines? Plenty of positions open at the Park Service. Want to wear a cute hat and point at squirrels? We could get a special secret appropriation for your salary (whaddya think? $300K? Sound about right?), and you could live in a brown building surrounded by lonely young men and women. Maybe I'll just appoint myself to that job. The gold mine does not seem to be yielding, you know, gold. Also, and this would be optional, I could wear one of those cool earpieces with the curly wires going down into my coat. And I could talk into my wrist. No microphone necessary; just my wrist. http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c...DDG6QQ5D4J1.DTL

LOL @ Department of Gold and Wars

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Originally posted by josh4

what the hell is this crap? (that was rhetorical btw)

you've got the SFChronicle thinking for you know. thats great. you should be scared.

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Originally posted by Q5echo what the hell is this crap? (that was rhetorical btw) you've got the SFChronicle thinking for you know. thats great. you should be scared.

better than your warlords. exactly how many sacrifices does your Cheney demigod require each night?

blah, blah, blah...we're still waiting for an original thought from you.

sheep.

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Originally posted by josh4 better than your warlords. exactly how many sacrifices does your Cheney demigod require each night?

LOL, that was great Josh!

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Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller