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johno27
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Sampled Bass Sounds

Hi,

I've often read that it's better to use sampled bass sounds than the original synth patch live. I've never bothered to try this.

Would they be referring to sampling a single note and pitch shifting it?

What advantage does this possibly have over using the synth patch live?

Any ideas welcome

Thanks
John

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It gives a more stable sound as most synths have subtle movement / phasing(?)in the sound when you play and more often than not you dont want that.

Plus most vsti / synths are stereo so when you sample you can convert to mono.


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DiscoStew
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John,

Here are two links you might want to check out for details:

Sampling (concept): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sampli...al_instruments.
Software-based Sampler (example): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kontakt


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I've sampled my own patches from time to time. THe primary reason for this is because it saves CPU. Yes, track bumping... it's a wonderful thing.


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mysticalninja
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Re: Sampled Bass Sounds

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Originally posted by johno27
What advantage does this possibly have over using the synth patch live?


No one has mentioned the real reason people sample their bass.. The advantage is you can EQ one note fat, and then when you pitch shift it the EQ and fatness stays with it.. Unlike if you boost the fundamentall then change note on the synth, the fundamental wont be boosted anymore... The only other option would be to automate an eq every time the bass changes a note.. That's why people resample bass.

BTW G# is the standard to sample.. it's generally the lowest note synths reach while still sounding fat.


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MERiDiAN5i2
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Good point, Ninja!

I've also noticed it seems like a good chunk of the VST synths, especially when dealing with basslines, dont put out an equal amplitude level on all notes. Sampling would take care of that, as well.

<3 Kontakt.

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theognis1002
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where do u get the sample?


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MERiDiAN5i2
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Make it with a VST synth or any number of hundreds of professionally produced sample packs

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johno27
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Registered: Jul 2007
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Hi,

Thanks for the replies.
I figured it had something to do with that. I normally use a dynamic EQ and adjust per different notes in the bassline pattern. It is quite a pain and I can see the advantage of pitch shifting the "processed" sound.

I wonder what the best au/logic plugin would be to use for this.
I haven't use re-pitched samples since the tracker/mod days

Does EXS 24 pitch shift samples if anyone knows offhand?
Or is there another good/simple au to use for this sort of pitch-shifting sample playback?

Cheers

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MERiDiAN5i2
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Pretty much any sampler worth being called a sampler will pitch shift... You'd just assign the sample to a range of notes and set the root key, which defines the note that plays the sample at it's original pitch. Sometimes this is called the unity key. IIRC the root key can be set in the EXS editor, but it's been a long while since I've mucked around with EXS. EXS will certainly pitchshift.

In Kontakt2, in the mapping editor, you'd just drag the sample's zone to cover the proper area of the keyboard you want the sample to cover, drag the root key into place, and play away.

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thesuperfunk
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quote:
Originally posted by johno27


Does EXS 24 pitch shift samples if anyone knows offhand?


yep

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