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kwnds
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Registered: Apr 2007
Location: Portugal
About DJ Techniques...

Imagine this: you are playing music 1 and you want to mix music 2, what are your techniques? For example: you keep the 2 songs at the same time for a while or a few seconds and them you leave just one? You remove the bass on first or on second? Give me some indications please...
Thanks

Old Post Jul-23-2007 20:05  Portugal
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sleepydragon
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Registered: Oct 2003
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do it however u want everyone does it different. ive change how i mix about a 100 times already at the moment im using all 3 eqs swapping the bass first. I used to only use the lows and highs.


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Old Post Jul-23-2007 20:39  England
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Ryan0751
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Registered: May 2005
Location: Boston, MA

You shouldn't be doing it "one way" over and over again... let the tracks dictate how they should be mixed. Practice practice practice...

Before you start EQ'ing to all hell, resist the urge to use them. Just mix using ONLY the upfaders, and don't use the crossfader. Why?

1. This will teach you proper volume control and gain control. Remember that DJ's mixed for 20 years before channel EQ's became common. They are a nice feature, but not required on every mix.

2. Concentrate on placing the mix. When you bring in the next track, when you drop the outgoing track. Really pay attention to your music, it'll tell you what to do.

Old Post Jul-23-2007 20:57  United States
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DiscoStew
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Registered: Mar 2007
Location: Dirty South

quote:
Originally posted by Ryan0751
You shouldn't be doing it "one way" over and over again... let the tracks dictate how they should be mixed. Practice practice practice...


+1. Well said.


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chef.roo
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Registered: Jun 2007
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quote:
Originally posted by Ryan0751
1. This will teach you proper volume control and gain control. Remember that DJ's mixed for 20 years before channel EQ's became common. They are a nice feature, but not required on every mix.



20 years, really? That must have been a real pain.

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Ryan0751
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Registered: May 2005
Location: Boston, MA

Not really... lookup classic rotary mixers... Urei 1620, Bozak CM-10.

Quite nice to mix on.

quote:
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20 years, really? That must have been a real pain.

Old Post Jul-24-2007 02:33  United States
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Zild
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Registered: Jun 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by chef.roo
20 years, really? That must have been a real pain.


Not a pain. I'd much rather mix on a nice rotary with no channel EQs than on a nice club mixer with EQs and slide faders. It is just so much easier to get a smooth mix that way and forces me to focus more on proper programming and track selection.


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Dojomaster26
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Registered: Feb 2004
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Do the transitions however you want to. Sometimes my mixes are 30 seconds, while others can last for 3+ minutes. Like what was said before, listen to the songs and hear what sounds right, and make a judgement based on your ears...


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kwnds
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Registered: Apr 2007
Location: Portugal

Thanks for the help, i real need it.
I will try some from some ways and i will se if stay good.
Thanks again =)

Old Post Jul-24-2007 11:54  Portugal
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DRredLite
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I have listened to some sets where the mix lasts on some level for almost 2 minutes , and others will switch mix for only a few seconds.

I find with prog house and trance the mix will last longer because you generally want to create a seamless transition between songs such that it all sounds like one track the entire time. In this case what works best is to gradually adjust the levels one by one over a couple of minutes.

With breaks and drum and bass sounds you can't blend as much because in some cases there is too much going on , so faster transitions are better.

As an example , this is what i like to do:

phase 1 - gradulaly introduce track 2 MID
phase 2 - gradually introduce track 2 LOW
phase 3 - drop track 1 LOW
phase 4 - gradually introduce track 2 HIGH

At this point it's about 1 minute and your still mixing the tracks , but after 4 phases track 2 is fully playing.

But of course there are many ways and cases where you may want to do something different.

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dJohn
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Registered: May 2002
Location: 619

quote:
You shouldn't be doing it "one way" over and over again... let the tracks dictate how they should be mixed. Practice practice practice...


+1, especially about the tracks dictating how things are going. That seems to be the key: tracks incoming or outgoing will sound different with others. The only time you should be sticking to any rules are the ones that you know work, aka guaranteed transitions.
Alot of people talk about the flow of tracks and the direction your mix is going as important. I can't agree enough with these folks, because ultimately deciding how to shape and bend your mix will give you a better idea of what to do with the transitions. Look at the big picture first before adjusting and placing the pieces. Things such as rhythm, cadence of vocals, beat structure, blah blah blah...all of these give character to your mix depending on how you actually do the mix.
Listen to the music, see what it does, and see what you can do with it. Remember, your not forcing change, just facilitating it. Let the music do the rest.

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