Originally posted by Renegade
Apparently I agree with Mike Gravel on everything except Iran sanctions. Not too familiar with him, but he seems like a bit a of a crazy old bastard:
"Who the hell are we going to nuke? Tell me Barack, who do want to nuke?"
Awesome.
yeah man. i wouldn't be surprised if gravel becomes the stable alternative to the barack & hilary camps
Jul-22-2007 17:53
Q5echo
asymetrical scepticism
Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Dallas
quote:
Originally posted by Renegade
he seems like a bit a of a crazy old bastard
indeed.
once any one of these candidates makes the office any one of these issues immediately become subject to a whole panoply of considerations.
in fact, without serious grounding of one's fundamental convictions (notice i didn't say "moral") the Office of the President can be about as subjective as a House of Commons.
NONE of the Democrats have exhibited such grounding IMO.
so you can't put too much stock into a chart like this, but it is handy.
Jul-22-2007 22:56
MisterOpus1
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Location: Kansas City
quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
NONE of the Democrats have exhibited such grounding IMO.
Such as?
And I'm curious if you feel the same way about one of your GOP darlings, Romney. Or McCain for that matter, who both seem to have terrific sense of "grounding" when they need to get the votes from your base.
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Jul-22-2007 23:23
kush paintings
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I can't believe I am seriously stating my opinion on torture.
...or Obama on abortion or much for that matter. he's intelligent but almost an empty suit when it comes to addressing any issue other than Iraq, but not as much as Biden though. Biden's just dumb.
...Edwards don't get me started on Edwards.
quote:
And I'm curious if you feel the same way about one of your GOP darlings, Romney. Or McCain for that matter, who both seem to have terrific sense of "grounding" when they need to get the votes from your base.
they're politicians but i believe them to be more convictually<--word? grounded across the board than the Donks.
this shouldn't even be a discussion.
the Donks are all over the place but more importantly, influenced very easily to stray from their convictions (i keep using this word convictions but i'm too lazy to come up with a better term right now)
Jul-23-2007 01:29
Marc Summers
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Location: New York, USA
look at ron paul trying to oppose everything like he's somebody
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Jul-23-2007 01:38
Sunsnail
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10-term congressman and M.D. isn't something anymore? for fucks sake
Jul-23-2007 01:47
Kapedano
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Democrats have a woman that isnt woman enough, they have a black guy that isnt black enough and they have a man, well, he isnt man enough :]
Originally posted by Kapedan
Democrats have a woman that isnt woman enough, they have a black guy that isnt black enough and they have a man, well, he isnt man enough :]