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pkcRAISTLIN
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Private Schools

I looked for the old thread but couldn't find it. So here's another for all you publicly-funded private school defenders to chomp on

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THE Catholic Church wants to discourage non-Catholic families from enrolling their children in its schools under a return to strict religious values.

Church leaders headed by Cardinal George Pell yesterday issued an edict to all Catholic schools, demanding that students and their parents be more devout and outlining a plan to lure back thousands of poorer families who have left the system.

The Church will not ban non-Catholic students from enrolment - it says it considered, but rejected, plans for a formal "downsizing to accommodate only those who are committed to the faith".

But it wants to introduce a new four-way selection test to give preference first to children from the school's local parish, then to other Catholics, other Christians and finally children from other religions.

The state's 585 Catholic schools have been urged to "re-examine how they might maximise enrolment of Catholic students".

The edict also tells Catholic schools to increase the proportion of school staff who are "practising and knowledgeable Catholics".

Catholic families will be urged to "maximise their participation".

Students and younger teaching staff will be encouraged to take part in religious events such as World Youth Day.

Faithful being 'watered down'

Church leaders want more people at Sunday Mass and deeper involvement in the life of the local church by students and ex-students.

Fears that the drift of Catholics away from the Church's schools is seriously "watering down" numbers of the faithful has forced Cardinal Pell and other Catholic leaders to take action in a bid to reverse the trend.

Enrolment of students from a non-Catholic background in Catholic schools across the State has more than doubled to 20 per cent over the last two decades.

In a rare pastoral letter, "Catholic Schools at a Crossroads", the Bishops of NSW and the ACT admit changes in enrolment patterns have "radically affected the composition and roles of the Catholic school..."

The letter, with Cardinal Pell as head signatory, said: "Half the students of Catholic families are enrolled in state schools and a growing proportion go to non-Catholic independent schools.

"Another enrolment trend of particular concern has been the decline in representation in our schools of students from both poorer and wealthier families."

Church leaders pressured to downsize

The letter reveals church leaders faced pressure to "downsize" the Catholic school system to include only students and staff who embraced the religion.

But the bishops decided against such a radical change.

Catholic schools educate about 240,000 students and employ 15,500 teachers across the state.

Cardinal Pell was not available to comment yesterday, directing inquiries to the Bishop of Broken Bay, David Walker.

Speaking at the launch of the pastoral letter at the Mary MacKillop Memorial Chapel, Bishop Walker said it was time to reassess the future of Catholic schools.


so its ok for the average, non-denominational mums and dads to fund religious education, as long as they do not wish to partake in it themselves

this idea is only acceptable if catholic schools decide they can fund their own facilities. fat fucking chance.

people piss me off.


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religion pisses me off.


fixed


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actually I'm surprised with this, usually the Catholics are jumping at chances to convert the heathens


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What is your opinion of private schools in general pkc?


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pkcRAISTLIN
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quote:
Originally posted by Trance Nutter
actually I'm surprised with this, usually the Catholics are jumping at chances to convert the heathens


hahaha. good point!

quote:
Originally posted by Beat Blog
What is your opinion of private schools in general pkc?


im kind've in the middle really. I do appreciate that the private system takes the strain off the public to a certain extent. However it irks me greatly that tax payers that might not be able to afford to send their children to such schools help fund them anyway.

I also can't stand the snobby superiority complexes some children get from attending the more exclusive ones, and im shitty i didnt get to nail more than one of my sister's private school buddies.


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quote:
Originally posted by Trance Nutter
actually I'm surprised with this, usually the Catholics are jumping at chances to convert the heathens


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quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
im kind've in the middle really. I do appreciate that the private system takes the strain off the public to a certain extent. However it irks me greatly that tax payers that might not be able to afford to send their children to such schools help fund them anyway.


Agree with you there. The figures are astounding when you think about it.

Take a standard 250 person year level in a "top" private school. Each student pays probably $20,000 a year. Assume that $10,000 of this goes towards excursions, sports, supplies and property renovations etc.

That means there's 2.5 million dollars left over per year to pay for teachers. If there's 25 teachers per year level (a very high estimate), that would mean each teacher gets paid $100,000 a year (bullshit).

Those calculations are without taking into account any government funding, so where the hell is all this money going?!!!

Meanwhile some state schools are struggling.

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I also can't stand the snobby superiority complexes some children get from attending the more exclusive ones, and im shitty i didnt get to nail more than one of my sister's private school buddies.


I'm glad you said "some children", a lot of people think all private school kids are like that.

I'm a private school graduate, and absolutely hated that bullshit elitist attitude that some kids had. How absurd to think that because you have money, you're better than anyone else.

On the other hand, there were families worth 100 million that I went to school with, and no one ever knew because the kids were as nice and as down to earth as is possible.


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quote:
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and im shitty i lost my virginity to jake on the back of a moped


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Catholic Schools are thinking of starting pre-school enrolments
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SYDNEY'S Catholic Church may run its own preschools as a way of bolstering its student population through primary and secondary schools and spreading the Catholic faith from "cradle to the grave".


Oh well, re-brain the bastards early...
I don't particularly like religions when they start messing around and indoctrinating people who are easily influenced, personally I think religion is something of a mental illness in that regard

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DJ_Ballistic
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i went to catholic school, in terms of them pushing religion on to you it's not that bad...

And even if they do get worse, kids these days are even bigger cunts than we were, so i don't think it'll matter much...


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quote:
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How absurd to think that because your parents have money, you're better than anyone else.


fixed, imo.

lol @ "filtered down". don't sell religion you f*cks, teach it (to those that genuinely want to learn).


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quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
hahaha. good point!
I also can't stand the snobby superiority complexes some children get from attending the more exclusive ones


I generally find the opposite. It's the people that didn't go to Private Schools who feel the need to to have those sorts of conversations.


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i've never heard anyone brag about going to public school


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