The other NHL threads are great but it's just
too specific. This thread is for anyone who
just wants to talk about hockey from a general
perspective. I'll start......

Taking a look at the L.A. Kings, you've got
Felix Potvin as a starting goaltender and
Jamie Storr as a back-up. Who deserves to be
the starter? Clearly it's Potvin because he's
played over 70 games and has great playoff experience.

I'd say the Kings should have played Storr
more often in the regular season because come
playoff time, if your starting goalie gets injured,
you're stuck with with an unprepared back-up goalie.

I just feel sorry for Storr, who is an overwhelmingly
exceptional goaltender and has the capability
of being a starter. He has not played alot of
games, has a couple shoutouts and a number of
games where he has allowed only one goal. Plus,
I met him at this year's all-star fantasy weekend.
He is the one of the calmest person you'll ever meet.

You take a look at Philadelphia, a balance between
Boucher and Chechmanek has been established. Both
goalies are ready to go in the playoffs. So,
Goaltending is extremely important, especially
in the playoffs. Obviously, you need your go to
guy, but you also want your back-up to be ready.

Well guys....What's on your hockey mind? Remember,
it can be anything,..... as long as it's hockey.

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Originally posted by sebby Taking a look at the L.A. Kings, you've got Felix Potvin as a starting goaltender and Jamie Storr as a back-up. Who deserves to be the starter? Clearly it's Potvin because he's played over 70 games and has great playoff experience. I'd say the Kings should have played Storr more often in the regular season because come playoff time, if your starting goalie gets injured, you're stuck with with an unprepared back-up goalie. I just feel sorry for Storr, who is an overwhelmingly exceptional goaltender and has the capability of being a starter. He has not played alot of games, has a couple shoutouts and a number of games where he has allowed only one goal. Plus, I met him at this year's all-star fantasy weekend. He is the one of the calmest person you'll ever meet. You take a look at Philadelphia, a balance between Boucher and Chechmanek has been established. Both goalies are ready to go in the playoffs. So, Goaltending is extremely important, especially in the playoffs. Obviously, you need your go to guy, but you also want your back-up to be ready.

GP GS MIN W L T GA GAA SA S% SO

19 12 886 9 4 3 28 1.90 360 .922 2

Pretty damn good for a backup if you ask me. Maybe Vancouver should've traded Potvin for Storr...

Unfortunately for Philly, both of their goalies are in a slump right now.


My thoughts:

When awarding the Hart trophy, a player who is on a playoff bound team deserves more consideration IMO. This is why I believe Theodore should get it instead of Iginla. I'm not overlooking Naslund/Bertuzzi, but IMO, they can't win it because they would split the vote. Sure Calgary would've probably finished last without Iginla, but Montreal is no better than Calgary themselves, but thanks to their stellar goaltender, they have a hope.

Theodore won in 30 of Montreal's 36 wins. He faced, on average 29 shots a game and managed to post a .931 save percentage and the second lowest GAA among regularly starting goalies at 2.12. On top of all of that, he scored a goal.

One exercise I like to do when judging who I believe to be the MVP, is to remove that player from his team and think about what the result would be.

Calgary = Not in the playoffs
Calgary - Iginla = Not in the playoffs

Montreal = In the playoffs
Montreal - Theodore = Definitely not in the playoffs

Vancouver = In the playoffs
Vancouver - Bertuzzi = Most likely not in the playoffs
Vancouver - Naslund = Definitely not in the playoffs
Vancouver - Naslund and Bertuzzi = Not a hope in hell

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originally stated by zarathustra "One exercise I like to do when judging who I believe to be the MVP, is to remove that player from his team and think about what the result would be. Calgary = Not in the playoffs Calgary - Iginla = Not in the playoffs Montreal = In the playoffs Montreal - Theodore = Definitely not in the playoffs Vancouver = In the playoffs Vancouver - Bertuzzi = Most likely not in the playoffs Vancouver - Naslund = Definitely not in the playoffs Vancouver - Naslund and Bertuzzi = Not a hope in hell

That's an incredible analogy. Since I'm a math major,
I guess I'm going with your pick. Besides, he was my
pick to begin with anyways.

Along with Storr, I also saw Jose Theodore at the N.H.L.
all-star fantasy weekend. There was this private room
with a long line for people waiting to get an autographed
puck signed by Theodore personally. Right before it was
my turn, this guy in front of me was wearing the Russian
Federation team jersey and holding a puck with a Canadian
logo on it. You should have seen the look on Theodore when
he looked at the puck. He said, "Russia? Canada? Make up
your mind." I was LMAO.

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this year's mvp should go to naslund or theodore. iginla is a good guy and such a great talent but IMO the guy that took his team to the playoffs should be in line to get the honor first.

IT' CUP CRAZY TIME!!!!!

My favorite playoff memory had to be last year's when
Adam Deadmarsh scored against the Red Wings, speed skated
towards the bench, and jumped into one of his teammates.
As they went down on the ice, the rest of the team piled
up on him. To this day, that moment still gives me the chills.

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Originally posted by sebby IT' CUP CRAZY TIME!!!!! My favorite playoff memory had to be last year's when Adam Deadmarsh scored against the Red Wings, speed skated towards the bench, and jumped into one of his teammates. As they went down on the ice, the rest of the team piled up on him. To this day, that moment still gives me the chills.

ahh time for more Avs shit! did you see Sakic hand Ray Borque the Cup last year? i missed it at the time, and saw it just the other day - amazing...it had been so long coming! heh/

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Originally posted by biznology ahh time for more Avs shit! did you see Sakic hand Ray Borque the Cup last year? i missed it at the time, and saw it just the other day - amazing...it had been so long coming! heh/

hey wut can u say? joe is a classy guy.

My favourite playoff memories:

-Sakic handing the cup to Bourque:

In the words of Don Cherry, "what a beauty!"

-Edmonton winning in 1990:

First playoffs I remember watching.

-Irbe showing the Wings how it's done in '95:

Being a goalie myself at the time, I found it exciting

-Panthers playoff run in '96:

I was also a Panthers fan.

-Mario Lemiux kicking ass against the North Stars

I thought he was a god at the time

-Gretzky putting away the leafs in '93

Oh that was sweet

-Roy putting away the Kings in '93

Last Canadian team to win the cup

-Edmonton upsetting Dallas in '97
-Edmonton upsetting Colorado in '98

The Wings should thank us for not having to play the #1 seed in the West for their 2 cups in row

-Colorado vs. Detroit in '97
Best series I have ever seen.

I love the playoffs.

you know what? to me the canucks right now almost look like the 1996 colorado avalanche. the avs were young and just literally beat up on that old detroit team. the avs also learned from getting spanked by the NYR when they were in quebec the year before. just as the canucks have learned from going out 4-0 to these same avs last year. cloutier has played phenominal just as i expected him to do. i knew we made a great pick up last year when we traded for him. now its finally paying dividends. all the key players are so young and have so many years left in their careers. this is going to be a great team to watch for years to come if brian burke can manage to keep most of them together. whats your take?

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Originally posted by M.A.R.K you know what? to me the canucks right now almost look like the 1996 colorado avalanche. the avs were young and just literally beat up on that old detroit team. the avs also learned from getting spanked by the NYR when they were in quebec the year before. just as the canucks have learned from going out 4-0 to these same avs last year. cloutier has played phenominal just as i expected him to do. i knew we made a great pick up last year when we traded for him. now its finally paying dividends. all the key players are so young and have so many years left in their careers. this is going to be a great team to watch for years to come if brian burke can manage to keep most of them together. whats your take?

huh yeah...you guys can beat Detroit, and then the Avs can take the cup this year! heh j/k we will see how this pplays out! late/

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Hey guys!!! Who do you think should guard the net for
the Kings in game three? I think it should be Storr.

Any other adjustments for any team? Please share...

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i think i will stick with potvin. he hasn't been spectacular but i don't think the kings would be better off with jamie storr. potvin dumped detroit after going down 2-0 to the wings last year. i'd say keep riding him out.