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bigendz13
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Registered: Aug 2007
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Do pro DJ's Standardize the BPM on there CD's??

I just recently stood Behind tiesto last week at Rehab in Vegas and I swear I never saw him adjust his pitch once. I was just wondering if and how common it was for DJ's to run there tracks through some kind of BPM standarization software and then burn them to CD. (for instance burning all your CD's at 133.333 BPM) so they can realy never mess up?? If this is common practice what kind of software do you think the pros use as to not lose any sound quality? I know this might be a lazy aproach, but you know sometimes I have a couple of cocktails behind my decks. Thanks for any knowledge anybody can drop on me.

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DJ RANN
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It's tiesto - he doesn't mix, he just waves his arms about while a pre-rec CD plays. See peter hook for more info.

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SPAWNmaster
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it's been discussed before...a lot of DJ's use ableton to make their own personal edits and just find it easier to export all at the same tempo so it just ends up being that way. also I've found (when I used to mix trance/uptempo) that a large portion of tracks are at ~~138.5BPM the same way a lot of house tracks are at 130.


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Freak
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But yes some of the AAA list ones do

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DJ RANN
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Ableton edit your whole set? I don't reckon. More likely pre-rec CD.

Go on, name some names. I don't know of any others....

*cough*BT*cough*Darude*Cough*ATB*Cough

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RJT
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naming no names....

But yes some of the AAA list ones do


**cough** Morillo **cough cough**

I don't even export my edits at the same tempo (always use the original)


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Dojomaster26
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Eh, its easy enough to match a track on CDJs with the BPM counter anyway. I don't see why people are still paying to see "DJ"s like Peter Hook cheat on their mixing.

Peter Hook in particular is a real shame because he used to do bass for New Order. All his DJing is doing is tarnishing that musical history. If you can't mix then at least play the set Lerry Levan style instead of putting a pre-rec CD in...


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theognis1002
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Eddie Halliwell definitely does this as well


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DJ RANN
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You can't give Larry Levan stick - have you tried mixing without even having pitch control on your turntables? But I know what you mean....

Peter Hook (and we really don't need another lengthy thread on this) played bass in New Order. Wow. Why does that give him an instant high profile DJ career?

It's called cashing in on your past success.

*cough*Oakenfold*cough* (on both counts).

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You can't give Larry Levan stick - have you tried mixing without even having pitch control on your turntables? But I know what you mean....

Peter Hook (and we really don't need another lengthy thread on this) played bass in New Order. Wow. Why does that give him an instant high profile DJ career?

It's called cashing in on your past success.

*cough*Oakenfold*cough* (on both counts).


*cough* Tommy Lee *cough*

just one more of the many to add


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Dojomaster26
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I'm not dissing Larry Levan at all. Quite the opposite actually (hes one of my favorite DJs, and he definately is a major influence for me). If he can get the Paradise Garage packed and jumping on little to no mixing but the best track and mood selection, then why are DJs still striving for perfect mixing when its their programming that needs to be improved?

What I'm saying is: If you can't mix, don't fake it. Program the set right, and you'll get people to move regardless of the mixing, and I'll have more respect for you as a DJ than if you just played a pre-recorded mix...


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Jarvmeister
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quote:
Originally posted by Dojomaster26
Eh, its easy enough to match a track on CDJs with the BPM counter anyway.


That's just not true, if you mix a tune at 130.64bpm, you're display will tell you you're either on 130 or 131. So what about 130.01, 130.02, 130.03, 130.04 etc etc?? You still need a good ear for that if your mixing is to sound tight.

Jarv

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