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DiscoStew
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Drum Tracks / Mapping in Cubase

I was just working on a track that has been a work-in-progress for quite some time and I am realizing more and more that there is probably a much more efficient way to go about arranging the drums.

Currently, I have one group-track for all of my percussion; but within that group track, I have each item (kick, snare, clap, hat, etc.) in its own track. My reasoning is that I apply different EQ settings, reverb, filters to each of those tracks. But, that method really takes forever and makes it harder to do any sort of real-time pattern editing. I know that it is pretty standard to have the kick be in its own track for the purpose of side-chain compression, but is the rest of this overkill?


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mysticalninja
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nope not overkill, i can easily use like 12 seperate tracks of just drums.

i don't usually route them all to a drum channel tho, i usually route the kick and bass to a group, and sometimes maaaaaybe the hats+clap/snare/rest of percussion together.


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DiscoStew
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nope not overkill, i can easily use like 12 seperate tracks of just drums.


Do you generally arrange your drums in one track and break them out later or do you arrange them in 12 separate tracks from the beginning?


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mysticalninja
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i always import each drum sample to a different track always always always.

of course you could use a sampler like Battery and then arrange them all in one midi track... but i dunno it seems like a useless extra step to me... and i like seeing all the waveforms of all the samples together and being able to precisely shorten them and add fades and stuff.. i know you can use the ADSRH envelope in battery but you can only see one samples waveform at a time in battery.. i like seeing em all together.


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DiscoStew
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of course you could use a sampler like Battery


That's basically what I currently do because it is easier to do stuff like alter the velocity of the hits. I assume you just use volume automation for this?


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mysticalninja
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Yeah ease of velocity change is what Battery users usually say they use it for.

I either volume automation or grab that little blue box on the top middle of the sample and that is the velocity right there.


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daeus
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I use Battery and mostly assign each perc to a different channel, then in Cubase you have a nice layout of your beats for real time editing and if you have a second screen or enough space on your main screen you can tweak all the effects/eq's for each perc aswell, slightly annoying how spaced out they are on the keyboard though, why battery cant assign them to keys all together I dont know.


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That's fine, I'd just route the kick elsewhere, it's usually several times louder than the other drums and you don't want to compress them together.


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daeus
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Actually I'm sure you could edit which cells are linked to keyboard keys to get them all together...I'm going to check that out after work.


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