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MrJiveBoJingles
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Exercise usually doesn't make people thinner

Or at least that's what this article ends up concluding:

http://nymag.com/news/sports/38001/

COR Version: Increased calorie expenditure (from exercise) leads to increased calorie consumption. Whatever weight you burn off in a session of exercise, you probably regain by eating more food. One of the studies cited found that unfit people who trained to run a marathon ultimately lost very little weight. Also, the primary way your body regulates fat storage is insulin, which means that insulin-boosting foods like bread, sugar, etc. are probably what make you fat.

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If it’s biology, and not a lack of willpower, that explains why exercise fails so many of us as a weight-loss tool, then we can still find reason for optimism. Since insulin is the primary hormone affecting the activity of LPL on our cells, it’s not surprising that insulin is the primary regulator of how fat we get. “Fat is mobilized [from fat tissue] when insulin secretion diminishes,” the American Medical Association Council on Foods and Nutrition explained back in 1974, before this fact, too, was deemed irrelevant to the question of why we gain weight or the means to lose it. Because insulin determines fat accumulation, it’s quite possible that we get fat not because we eat too much or exercise too little but because we secrete too much insulin or because our insulin levels remain elevated far longer than might be ideal.

To be sure, this is the same logic that leads to other unconventional ideas. As it turns out, it’s carbohydrates—particularly easily digestible carbohydrates and sugars—that primarily stimulate insulin secretion. “Carbohydrates is driving insulin is driving fat,” as George Cahill Jr., a retired Harvard professor of medicine and expert on insulin, recently phrased it for me. So maybe if we eat fewer carbohydrates—in particular the easily digestible simple carbohydrates and sugars—we might lose considerable fat or at least not gain any more, whether we exercise or not. This would explain the slew of recent clinical trials demonstrating that dieters who restrict carbohydrates but not calories invariably lose more weight than dieters who restrict calories but not necessarily carbohydrates. Put simply, it’s quite possible that the foods—potatoes, pasta, rice, bread, pastries, sweets, soda, and beer—that our parents always thought were fattening (back when the medical specialists treating obesity believed that exercise made us hungry) really are fattening. And so if we avoid these foods specifically, we may find our weights more in line with our desires.


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you don't work out to eat right, you eat right to work out


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In my opinion, people are not fat because they don't exercise enough. It's because they eat too much.


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Originally posted by get nyce
you don't work out to eat right, you eat right to work out

That's the basic idea here. It's not that people who don't work out get fat and tired, it's that people who are fat and tired because of their diets tend not to work out.

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Originally posted by Ygrene
In my opinion, people are not fat because they don't exercise enough. It's because they eat too much of the wrong crap.




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Reese's?


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Reese's?




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It's all about what you eat, not the ammount. I used to be crazy addicted to bread and bread-derivatives. I'd have at least some form of it at every meal, sometimes two, and in between. When I stopped I lost like 20 pounds.


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Peanut Butter and Jelly sandwichs > working out.


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quote:
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It's all about what you eat, not the ammount. I used to be crazy addicted to bread and bread-derivatives. I'd have at least some form of it at every meal, sometimes two, and in between. When I stopped I lost like 20 pounds.



actually i've found it to be the opposite where portion control is the main objective to your diet allowing you eat whatever you please just in certain portions. Also allows you to eat multiple times during the day to keep that metabolism running, just in smaller portions. and of course the practice of substituting certain foods/breads for a more healthier choice

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Re: Re: Exercise usually doesn't make people thinner

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Originally posted by josh4
its always lazy fucks looking for excuses not to make changes to their unhealthy lifestyle.

Actually, the article does recommend a change in lifestyle: eating foods that don't boost insulin production as much as things like breads and sugars.

In my own case, I was fat in seventh grade. I joined a competitive swimming program and lost weight, which tempts me to attribute my fat loss to the exercise. But as I started swimming, I also stopped drinking soft drinks and stopped gorging myself on worthless carbs like potato chips and pretzels, so it's hard to say what did the trick.

It is worth pointing out at this point that exercise can make you healthier even though, absent a change in diet, it may not make you much thinner. It improves lipid profile, energy level, restfulness of sleep, and insulin response.

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dont eat.


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