Did anyone see this? I wonder what his question was (or how he asked it)?
Sep-18-2007 12:17
Magnetonium
Dubstep = Douchestep
Registered: Sep 2001
Location: Port Burwell, Ontario, Canada
This is fucking ridiculous ... I watched the Shaolin's clip, too ... there was no reason for police using all that force (when its obvious that the student is actually trying to leave on his own). And most people in the audience apart from the brave few just took it like a normal occurence ... this is appalling.
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Sep-18-2007 13:23
ResonantDrag
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Registered: Mar 2001
Location: just visiting
Re: Student tased at John Kerry event
quote:
Originally posted by Shakka
Did anyone see this? I wonder what his question was (or how he asked it)?
something about the Yale Scull n Crossbones society..
Sep-18-2007 13:38
ResonantDrag
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Registered: Mar 2001
Location: just visiting
quote:
Originally posted by Magnetonium
This is fucking ridiculous ... I watched the Shaolin's clip, too ... there was no reason for police using all that force (when its obvious that the student is actually trying to leave on his own). And most people in the audience apart from the brave few just took it like a normal occurence ... this is appalling.
no, what you witnessed was a riot!!
anybody know if those were campus cops?
Sep-18-2007 13:40
Renegade
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Registered: May 2001
Location: Prague, Czech Republic
Re: Student tased at John Kerry event
quote:
Originally posted by Shakka
Did anyone see this? I wonder what his question was (or how he asked it)?
Full question's on youtube:
This account from facebook explains what happened earlier:
quote:
I was just at a conference where John Kerry was the speaker. During the Q&A section, a hyperactive young man grabbed the microphone while someone else was asking a question, proclaiming that he would like to ask a question. The leader of the conference just announced 5 minutes before that the current person asking a question was to be the last person to ask a question. The hyperactive young man was being forced by the police to leave the building. During this dramatized event, John Kerry said to the security to let him ask the question, but first let him finish with the current one being asked. The police respected John Kerry’s request but stood very closely to the young man. When it was the young man’s turn to speak, he was very revved up. But I would be too, if I was just handled that way by the police enforcement. He did ask a controversial question and was a bit out of line, even to make one police officer to try to pull him away while he was speaking. After he was done, the police did not just let him go sit down or leave the building. The police literally hurdled towards him and started to force him away.
The civil libertarian in me says the police probably over-reacted (even though he forcably resited being escorted from the building, tried to run away, then forcably resisted being cuffed) but the rest of me thinks thinks he probably deserved it anyway. He tried to hijack a forum that was about to finish just so he could get up on his soap-box and lecture a senator about a fucking skull & bones conspiracy theory, which just smacks of misguided self-importance. Same with all that carry-on about "People know I'm here, you can't kill me!"
Then he, you know, refused to leave a private event he was causing a disturbance at as though he had any inherent right to do what he was doing.
Frankly, he deserved to be tasered once for resisting arrest and then tasered again just for being a fuckwit.
Wasn't aware you could be abused by law enforcement because you aren't respectful enough
Sep-18-2007 21:03
Q5echo
asymetrical scepticism
Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Dallas
"In a fashion remenicent of Genghis Kahn"
i stole that
Sep-18-2007 22:54
Q5echo
asymetrical scepticism
Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Dallas
whats funny is ShaolinZ is like one bus ride downtown from being that poor bastard.
Sep-18-2007 22:57
Magnetonium
Dubstep = Douchestep
Registered: Sep 2001
Location: Port Burwell, Ontario, Canada
If I am not mistaken, the police were all over the poor guy before he could even finish the question. What does that have to do with his later attempts to leave on his own?
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Sep-18-2007 23:15
Spirit5
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I don't think Kerry has anything to do with this, heck he was willing to answer the guys question. But I would have at least hoped he would have intervened, demanded the police leave the guy alone. It wasn't like he threatened Kerry. Police brutality if you ask me...so those who want to take pock shots at Kerry again (swift boat him if you will)...well that's not needed here.
He even said today he was upset with how the police tazored this guy...all for asking questions (or being rude). There's no law against rudeness. All they should have did was reprimand him, and if he still continued to be rude, ask him to leave. But hand cuffing him, throwing him to the ground...tazoring him...the "crime" doesn't fit the punhishment delivered. Even though I'm not a huge fan, it's kind of like what has happened with Sen. Larry Craig. I think they are making a bigger deal (the police) out of little things, and I definitely think someone had an agenda (the police officer) who arrested him. These officers could have had an agenda too...the questions seem to really have sparked the police response more than anything.
Sep-18-2007 23:35
Magnetonium
Dubstep = Douchestep
Registered: Sep 2001
Location: Port Burwell, Ontario, Canada
Nope, I didnt hear John Kerry answer the question. All I heard "everyone please calm down" etc ... he didnt answer it. Plus, what would he say - obviously, he will laugh it off and say that he cant talk about it. Like in other Youtube clips where he was asked the question.
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