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MisterOpus1
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Kansas City
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Iraq Shia leaders sign truce deal
| quote: | Originally posted by LatinLover
It seems you dont know how to navigate a thread so ill repost it just for you: |
My eyes are almost blind with your concession! My apologies for not seeing you partially abide by the rules.
It would be helpful, however, to see you post such commentary in the first post you make with the copy/pasted story. That way we can all see your enlightened voice about the story you post immediately.
And we're still waiting for the link to the story, by the way.
Now, on to your thoughts:
| quote: | | Instead of praising the truce you come out with your far left criticism I just dont get it, when good news come out of Iraq the far left comes and hammers it. This is insane! |
It's a rightful observation of Lebezniatnikov as this Administration (and yourself) are clearly gearing up for a fight with the Iraqi government's ally, Iran. How does one fight Iran if the excuse of Iran meddling in Iraq becomes peaceful and eventually no longer becomes valid?
| quote: | | I applaud the truce of these two groups. These have been major players from the resistance side, and are working out their differences and reaching common ground on them. |
It's always nice to have hope, however one thing that's been shown time and again in Iraq is that the hope is always short-lived. You cannot be mad at anyone for not wanting to hold our breaths for situations like this, ESPECIALLY when we're talking about Moqtada Sadr. If you expect us to jump for joy when Moqtada Sadr decides to temporarily quell his violent acts, you're asking us to have a very short-term memory on this radical cleric. The guy turns on a dime when someone farts a mile away.
But you want us to be happy on such agreements? Cautious optimism was gone long ago. Only the nutbag chickenhawk war supporters such as yourself who make up a small fraction of this great country continue to live in senility believe things will be all rosy there some day. If I had a dime for every warmongering freeper like you who came through here and on other boards with happy-go-lucky stories about how fucking lovely things are in Iraq over the past 4 1/2 years, and it's all been done in the face of sheer ignorance, often times deliberately so in order to shield the world at how much a mess has been created by us for invading that country.
By plain rational skepticism do I hold my views about such happy news like this thread, and rightfully so. You nutbag neocons have cried "wolf" in reverse with this happy news bullshit so many times it makes the collective heads of the rest of the world spin right off. Only when there is CONSISTENCY of news being happy and full of joyous rapture will the collective world start to believe your stories of glee. Until that point, from a historical perspective alone we have every right to be downright skeptical of little "happy" stories coming from the likes of warmongers like you.
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Whence September dusk grows crisper still,
with leaves all crimson conquered,
I yearn to shout,
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hardcore trancer
Mystic Mind

Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Toronto,Canada
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Oct-06-2007 18:48
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Lebezniatnikov
Stupidity Annoys Me

Registered: Feb 2004
Location: DC
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| quote: | Originally posted by LatinLover
Instead of praising the truce you come out with your far left criticism I just dont get it, when good news come out of Iraq the far left comes and hammers it. This is insane!
I applaud the truce of these two groups. These have been major players from the resistance side, and are working out their differences and reaching common ground on them. |
Oh my God, this makes my head hurt. Do you honestly go around picking fights with people when you've never won one before?
1. If you knew me at all, you would realize how absurd it is that you keep labeling me "far left". Considering that I spent time working for a Republican congressman...
2. Criticism? I fail to see how I'm "criticizing" anything but the logic behind using Shia-motivated violence in Iraq as a stepping stone to war with Iran. It's great news that the Shia militias are putting down arms. That's absolutely fantastic news, and will go a long way toward providing some basic level of security in that country. And I think, what you've missed out of all of this, that the real story here is that the Iranian-funded militias have stopped fighting. If we pat them on the back, should we also be applauding their political and financial backers?
3. And as for your implied position that this is happening because of something the US did... well, I failed to see that part in the story.
4. You're too good to post the source of an article? I'm beginning to wonder whether anyone should take you seriously.
5. Now to actually explain to you in concrete terms what my post actually meant, since it went over your head. The Administration made a concerted effort to advocate war with Iran on the basis that they are developing nuclear weapons. The public has not bought this as a casus belli. In fact, public approval for the war in Iran, as Opus has continually noted, is very low. So as of late, the Administration has adapted and changed tactics. Instead, they have painted the Iranian government as a sponsor of terrorist activity in Iraq, citing predominantly al-Sadr's forces attacking US interests in that country. However, one would think, after this development, where al-Sadr is pledging an end to violence, that this casus belli will collapse as well. Which was what my observation stated. Hopefully you are able to understand that now. I apologize for the earlier evident lack of clarity.
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Oct-06-2007 22:06
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LatinLover
Bad Boy 4 Life

Registered: Oct 2006
Location: Medellin, Colombia/ Miami, FL
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Iraq Shia leaders sign truce deal
| quote: | Originally posted by MisterOpus1
My eyes are almost blind with your concession! My apologies for not seeing you partially abide by the rules.
It would be helpful, however, to see you post such commentary in the first post you make with the copy/pasted story. That way we can all see your enlightened voice about the story you post immediately.
And we're still waiting for the link to the story, by the way.
Now, on to your thoughts:
It's a rightful observation of Lebezniatnikov as this Administration (and yourself) are clearly gearing up for a fight with the Iraqi government's ally, Iran. How does one fight Iran if the excuse of Iran meddling in Iraq becomes peaceful and eventually no longer becomes valid?
It's always nice to have hope, however one thing that's been shown time and again in Iraq is that the hope is always short-lived. You cannot be mad at anyone for not wanting to hold our breaths for situations like this, ESPECIALLY when we're talking about Moqtada Sadr. If you expect us to jump for joy when Moqtada Sadr decides to temporarily quell his violent acts, you're asking us to have a very short-term memory on this radical cleric. The guy turns on a dime when someone farts a mile away.
But you want us to be happy on such agreements? Cautious optimism was gone long ago. Only the nutbag chickenhawk war supporters such as yourself who make up a small fraction of this great country continue to live in senility believe things will be all rosy there some day. If I had a dime for every warmongering freeper like you who came through here and on other boards with happy-go-lucky stories about how fucking lovely things are in Iraq over the past 4 1/2 years, and it's all been done in the face of sheer ignorance, often times deliberately so in order to shield the world at how much a mess has been created by us for invading that country.
By plain rational skepticism do I hold my views about such happy news like this thread, and rightfully so. You nutbag neocons have cried "wolf" in reverse with this happy news bullshit so many times it makes the collective heads of the rest of the world spin right off. Only when there is CONSISTENCY of news being happy and full of joyous rapture will the collective world start to believe your stories of glee. Until that point, from a historical perspective alone we have every right to be downright skeptical of little "happy" stories coming from the likes of warmongers like you. |
Dude you really should ask someone to assist you in teaching you how to navigate a thread. The source is there the first time you request I had input it to the article I posted. So stop being lazy and actually take your time to look at all the information before you post anything, it will really help
Please stop the name calling of nutback chickenhawk there is no need for that type of foul language for you to make a point
I mean and I keep saying this, there is no good news for the far left... we can win tomorrow and you guys will still be bitching and crying. Is that all the far left knows how to do? Cry, bitch, wine and put down great news coming from the battlefield. Sometimes I even question the intentions from the far left if they want America to succeed. As I have said, the far left is an ally of these thugs. This is incredible, nothing is good news to you people
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