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TSG
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DJ MAG article

From DJ Mag:

This year we’ve been appalled and disgusted to discover suspicious voting irregularities in our Top 100 DJs poll.

For the first time ever, now that DJmag is wholly independent again, the votes in this year’s poll have been collated in-house, and while in previous years we’ve relied on technology to weed out suspect votes, this year it’s been proved that there’s nothing more effective than the naked eye.

With 345,000 votes cast by email, publisher James Robertson has spent a ridiculous number of man-hours going through each vote. His discoveries have resulted in several DJs being disqualified from this year’s poll.

Roberston explained: “This year, I made a decision to investigate votes where the same IP address appeared over 50 times for the same person. The chances of the same person getting voted for by 50 different computers each having been allocated the same IP address within a week would be billions to one.”

The biggest DJs at the centre of our investigation were US stars Christopher Lawrence and DJ Dan. Both shared the same marketing manager.

“In both their cases, a script was used to bypass our security system,” said Roberston. “Not only did we get multiple votes from the same IP address, but we got multiple votes from multiple IP addresses — in other words, we received in excess of 50 votes from the same IP address on over 20 occasions.

Both Lawrence and Dan vehemently denied any involvement in vote rigging. “I take this matter very seriously,” said DJ Dan. “My assistant and I confronted my former marketing manager via telephone. He strongly denied any wrongdoing, but had no credible explanation for the improper voting. Christopher Lawrence, who used the same marketing person this year, reported similar voting problems.

When I discovered the common link was our marketing person, I immediately terminated him.”

Lawrence’s lawyer Kent Liu said: “My clients are willing to declare under oath that they themselves did not purchase or use a script, nor did they instruct any person in their employ to do so.”

(ok this part gets funny)

Chinese cheat DJ Tiesmi admitted paying cash for votes. “Tiesmi explained to me that it cost 4000 Yuan (£260) for 100,000 votes. He had paid a software engineer to create a script to by-pass our security code,” said Roberston. “However, it became apparent very quickly that Tiesmi was cheating when he raced to the No.1 spot within hours of the voting starting.

“His friend Yutise, who seemed to appear on the same bill as Tiesmi, as the second DJ, was also investigated. He explained that it was not him cheating, but his crazed fans who he had no control over,” said Robertson. “It’s funny though that the world’s biggest DJs, like PvD and Tiësto, don’t seem to have such problems.” (lmfao... i'll bite my tongue for the moment on this)

More voting irregularities surround the Flash Brothers from Israel — we detected over 1300 votes from the same IP address. They blamed “friends and family”.

In a statement to DJmag, they said: “It appears that some of our friends and family simply wanted to surprise us at all costs and help our cause. We certainly do not condone such behaviour. We feel very distraught about this whole affair. We accept full responsibility for this affair but are quite adamant it boils down to sheer stupidity and oversight.”

Hong Kong DJ Erick Junior has been dubbed “the fastest cheat in the East” after a four-day avalanche of votes saw him shoot to third position in the poll. Like the others, he has been disqualified. DJmag Editor Lesley Wright commented: “It’s outrageous that DJs should attempt to cheat. It shows a blatant disregard for the Top 100 poll, for DJ Magazine and, most importantly, for their fellow DJs. Shame on them

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djjoshuaallen
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just read this on the battle boards, that sucks, im sure they were able to get away with it last year, hard to belive that DJ dan was the #5 most popular DJ in the world last year.

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idoru
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Registered: May 2004
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I still say we eliminate the poll entirely.

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MindShifter
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quote:
Originally posted by idoru
I still say we eliminate the poll entirely.


this



it saddens me that it's clear that so many people actually take this farce seriously...


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kimchi
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Registered: Aug 2005
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quote:
Originally posted by djjoshuaallen
just read this on the battle boards, that sucks, im sure they were able to get away with it last year, hard to belive that DJ dan was the #5 most popular DJ in the world last year.


i concur, i mean dj dan is great and i enjoy but but when i heard last year he was number 5 i was like, really? just like kyle in that 9/11 south park episode.


realllyy???

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GPC
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Explains alot. Was always confused about Dan's #5 last year.

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Darrell Austin
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Thats too bad, cause CL actually deserves that spot

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Registered: Mar 2007
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quote:
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Thats too bad, cause CL actually deserves that spot


im with u all the way in this... CL did deserve the spot... but Dan at 5????


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blakh0rse
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Registered: Jun 2007
Location: Los Angeles, left my heart in San Francisco

quote:
Originally posted by idoru
I still say we eliminate the poll entirely.


Totally agreed! I have never voted and never will. Ppl treat it like the frikkin' presidential election! "I demand a recount!"
This whole stupid poll is hilarious.

1. Its JUST an internet POLL. Christopher Lawrence needed a lawyer over this? Who would you sue? Of course people are going to hack it. A poll is just for fun, it should remain that way. It should not be the basis for a dj's promotions. If you are desperate to get votes, you are stupid. I understand that you get a lot of press for being in the top, but the reference isn't legit.

2. People are going to love who they love. Obviously PVD and Tiesto have very different styles of music so they should not be battling for the "#1" spot. This poll makes it so that only 1 dj can be #1, but what defines #1? Points given from fans, therefore based on how many fans you have(Okay, I guess its the only way to quantitatively put music in that perspective.) And hell, how many DESPERATE fans you have who are willing to go through a lot of trouble to hack this POS. Thus, if someone hacked it to make DJ Dan #1, then Dj Dan SHOULD be #1.

So top djs, don't apologize, the poll is NOT in your control.

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blakh0rse
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Registered: Jun 2007
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Oh and I'm writing an essay that's due today on software reliability and I'm totally using this!

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fury
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Registered: Sep 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by blakh0rse
And hell, how many DESPERATE fans you have who are willing to go through a lot of trouble to hack this POS. Thus, if someone hacked it to make DJ Dan #1, then Dj Dan SHOULD be #1.


Except it was his marketing team, not his "fans".

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wetgroovin
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Registered: Mar 2006
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ON BEHALF OF WET GROOVES I CAN SAY THIS MUCH:

1. WE CANNOT STAND THIS DAMN POLL!

2. HAVING KNOWN BOTH CHRISTOPHER & DAN FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, WE KNOW THEY WOULD NOT HAVE PART IN SOMETHING LIKE THIS. IN FACT IF YOU ASKED WHO THE LAST 2 DJS ON EARTH THAT WOULD BE INVOLVED WITH SOMETHING LIKE THIS, IT WOULD BE DAN & CHRIS.

SO PLEASE KEEP AN OPEN MIND AND SEE IT FOR WHAT IT IS.


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