considering theres no money in the dance music industry, and even if you create a rare gem of a hit, the money will still not likely be anything specatular, who actually has money to afford mastering when the return is so low?

i got a guy that will do it for $40. same day usually

Eh, compared to 4 years ago when i started producing a bit. There are so many tools that make mastering/mixing/compressing so easy for the producer @ home these days.

Question is maybe, are people even bothering mastering externaly?

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Originally posted by Octanesyco Greetings. My name is Casey. You can call me Moose. -Moose

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Originally posted by palm as far as i know the producer dont pay for mastering, it will be withdrawned from the income of your track on your invoice from the label as promotion-costs will be. or many of the labels have good mastering-gear themself inside the label so the costs wont be that much, only a few hours of work for the a/r or anyone else.

That's a shabby deal if you have to pay for mastering out of the profits you make. The label should be responsible for mastering. If they believe in your track that much, they should foot the bill, or have someone at the label do it in-house.

You can get mastering done for as little as $25 online. Why bother though, when there's no guarantees you will sell enough to make that money back. Just slap a limiter on your track and hope your EQing during mixdown was good enough

i don't find a guy who charges $25 or even $40 a promising solution...Sounds like that 'guy' is probably just putting on the same bandaid solution he does to any track, without critically listening to the requirements of the track itself.

And sure there are tools to master yourself, and i am capable of doing bandaid solutions as well, that sound appealing to listen to. But it could definitely be better if a professional attended to that duty.

Remember that audio engineering is something you can major in in select universities, and its a life long process of mastering. Even though we are capable of obtaining the necessary tools, i think its far fetched to say 'most' of us are cabaple of using them the way they're designed to be used. And as a result there are tons of poorly mastered songs on labels because of this mentality.

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Originally posted by Zombie0729 i got a guy that will do it for $40. same day usually

t-racks?

Guys I was in a pro Studio some days ago and the man there showed me some Wavesssssss plug ins
But I was surprised when He told me that he prefers to use Izotope Ozone 3 because it has presets and its easy !!!!
So I don't think that its impossible or so hard to do

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Life is to short to listen to something else than Trance

and btw the Guy was certified not only to use but also to teach Pro Tools so hes really PRO

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Life is to short to listen to something else than Trance

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Originally posted by Khayat Guys I was in a pro Studio some days ago and the man there showed me some Wavesssssss plug ins

waves aren't that good.

any mastering engineer working purely off presets has no credibility in my eyes.

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Originally posted by djbruuen i don't find a guy who charges $25 or even $40 a promising solution...Sounds like that 'guy' is probably just putting on the same bandaid solution he does to any track, without critically listening to the requirements of the track itself. And sure there are tools to master yourself, and i am capable of doing bandaid solutions as well, that sound appealing to listen to. But it could definitely be better if a professional attended to that duty. Remember that audio engineering is something you can major in in select universities, and its a life long process of mastering. Even though we are capable of obtaining the necessary tools, i think its far fetched to say 'most' of us are cabaple of using them the way they're designed to be used. And as a result there are tons of poorly mastered songs on labels because of this mentality.

A few people here say that http://www.master-your-track.com/ does a good job. I just realized though, that 25 euro is 70 U.S. dollars. So not really an option for me. Man, the Dollar blows now. If you don't like what they've done to your track, you don't have to pay. Fair enough I guess.

As far as mastering, the only thing I do is use a limiter to raise the volume up. I don't squash it though. I'm afraid to use EQ, exciters, or anything else, because I don't want to ruin a track. I firmly believe now, that mastering should be left up to the labels. I'm label shopping right now, and I'm determined to only go with ones that have tight quality control. That is probably going to narrow my choices.

Just because a person has a certificate, doesn't mean they are good at what they do. That's true for any profession, audio engineer is no different.

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Originally posted by Khayat and btw the Guy was certified not only to use but also to teach Pro Tools so hes really PRO

jesus christ

if you guys can't fathom spending 100$ to master a track , you don't need it mastered because you aren't a professional so it matter so much.