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ams.rld
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I think Hugo's ego might be hurt by the Spanish King's comment:

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SANTIAGO (Reuters) - Spain's King Juan Carlos told Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez on Saturday to "shut up" during closing speeches by leaders from the Latin world that brought the Ibero-American summit to an acrimonious end.

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"Why don't you shut up?" the king shouted at Chavez, pointing a finger at the president when he tried to interrupt a speech by Spanish Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero.

Zapatero was in the middle of a speech at the summit of mostly leftist leaders from Latin America, Portugal, Spain and Andorra, and was criticizing Chavez for calling former Spanish Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar a fascist.

Chavez, a leading leftist foe of Washington, also attacked Spanish businessman Gerardo Diaz Ferran earlier in the week after he questioned the safety of foreign investments in Venezuela.

"I want to express to you President Hugo Chavez that in a forum where there are democratic governments ... one of the essential principles is respect," Zapatero told the leaders gathered in the Chilean capital, Santiago.

"You can disagree radically, without being disrespectful," Zapatero, a socialist, said sternly, drawing applause from some of the other heads of state.

Chavez, a former soldier, made his mark on the three-day summit from the start, announcing his arrival earlier in the week with defiant lyrics from a Mexican ballad.

"With the truth in hand, I do not offend, I do not fear," Chavez said on Saturday. "The government of Venezuela reserves the right to respond to any aggression."

PULP MILL FIGHT

The 19 leaders at the summit were nearly all leftists and the gathering was mostly friendly, although tension flared between neighbors Argentina and Uruguay over a controversial pulp mill along a border river.

Uruguay granted a long-awaited start-up permit to a Finnish group for the pulp mill on Thursday, drawing swift criticism from Argentina and deepening a long-running dispute.

The official theme of the summit was social cohesion, but many of the region's top leaders took advantage of the event to hold bilateral meetings on energy.

Latin American economies have expanded rapidly in recent years, putting pressure on energy supplies due to rising consumer demand and factory output in countries such as Chile and Argentina.

While most heads of state were due to leave Chile on Saturday, Chavez joined some of South America's most left-leaning leaders at a rally of about 3,000 people gathered for a "People's Summit" in a Santiago stadium.

Chavez interrupted his speech at the rally to call Cuba's Fidel Castro, who he considers his mentor. Chavez paraphrased a message from Castro congratulating Chileans who fought against former dictator Augusto Pinochet.

"Well Fidel, what a shame that we don't have speakerphone on this mobile, the people wanted to hear you," said Chavez, dressed in a red T-shirt.

Joining Chavez at the rally were Bolivia's Evo Morales, Cuban Vice President Carlos Lage and Nicaragua's Daniel Ortega. In his closing remarks from the leaders summit, Morales accused other countries of perceiving him as a lackey of the Venezuelan president.

"They treat us like animals because of the unconditional cooperation from comrade Hugo Chavez ... him as the big one and me as the little one," Morales told summit leaders.

(Additional reporting by Magdalena Morales and Ines Guzman; editing by Xavier Briand


http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071110...chile_summit_dc

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Idiot this is a different article.

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Idiot this is a different article.


Which requires a new thread? You're right. A thread titled "Huge Watch" and a thread entitled "Hugo Chavez Watch" are completely different things. But thanks for the new ad hominem.


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Which requires a new thread? You're right. A thread titled "Huge Watch" and a thread entitled "Hugo Chavez Watch" are completely different things. But thanks for the new ad hominem.
You really are just stirring the pot with your stalking me. My head is about too explode

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Which requires a new thread? You're right. A thread titled "Huge Watch" and a thread entitled "Hugo Chavez Watch" are completely different things. But thanks for the new ad hominem.

LOL


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quote:
Originally posted by ams.rld
You really are just stirring the pot with your stalking me. My head is about too explode


i'm stalking you too btw.

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Which requires a new thread? You're right. A thread titled "Huge Watch" and a thread entitled "Hugo Chavez Watch" are completely different things. But thanks for the new ad hominem.


haha.


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quote:
Originally posted by ams.rld
You really are just stirring the pot with your stalking me. My head is about too explode



Are you drawing a comparison between yourself and the guy in that video? I don't own a white helicopter and you can rest assured that I would not stalk you in it if I did have one. I'm just a guy who defends myself when you make ad hominem attacks, that's all.


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quote:
Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
Are you drawing a comparison between yourself and the guy in that video? I don't own a white helicopter and you can rest assured that I would not stalk you in it if I did have one. I'm just a guy who defends myself when you make ad hominem attacks, that's all.

I was not makin ad hominem attacks. I was just defending myself from your attacks.

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Originally posted by ams.rld
I was not makin ad hominem attacks. I was just defending myself from your attacks.



I don't even know why I'm bothering, but here we go in case you forgot. Your little spat with me, in it's entirety:

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When I was in elementary school I had to have surgery, and I shared a hospital room with a boy my age who had been shot in the side of the head with a gun by his best friend when they were playing with it. They found it in a lockbox in the closet and they smashed the box to get inside of it. He died in surgery from hemorraghing in his brain. And I've been for gun control all my life because of that.


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Sounds like a made up story by a future politician. If it isn't, than the fault is in the adults in the house who should have done better at hiding the gun.


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quote:
Originally posted by ams.rld
Sounds like a made up story by a future politician


Good one.


But just for the sake of your assinine claim, let's journey down this rabbit hole, shall we? Why would a politician make up a story that makes gun ownership look bad? Politicians by their nature want to appeal to the people to gain support, right? So here you are really admitting that the population is against private gun ownership and that an appeal for greater gun control will make a politician more popular?

Anyway, it's a true story, and you can deny it all you want. And you can also blame poor parenting all you want. But the fact of the matter is that hundreds of people die in accidental gun deaths every year, and a surprising proportion of them are children who find guns hidden in their parents' room. Blame the parents if you will. You can keep passing the buck til kingdom comes.




then in regards to Trancer-X's post:

quote:
Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
wiki says he was a called a "mediocre" intellect by friends... dunnnnnnnnnnnoooooo


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Originally posted by ams.rld
and you are less than mediocre. Stop trying to hurt yourself. This guy did something with himself unlike you!



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haha says the guy I only remember because he asked if anyone sleeps with prostitutes in amsterdam.


quote:
Originally posted by ams.rld
Yeah, andd one of the prostitutes I slept with was your mother. She was all that I could afford.


quote:
Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
it's as I always say, if you have nothing to contribute, go ad hominem!



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One would think that given the average age of the posters here, most people would stop being little bitches and mind their own business by now.
If not, the right place for you is the COR.


quote:
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I was going to ask if you are an alt of Latinlover, but at least he posts news stories. All you've got are the insults. But yeah, HTP's the one who should be leaving for the Chill Out Room...


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You were going to ask me a question if I were an alt? Why, that at least would have been one step closer to intellectual curiosity for you!
Really you should have asked. I would have had more respect for you. Other than the posts dealing with Africa, you are a silly joke.


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Do you care to provide reasoning or just the assertion?


To which you never responded.

Now, certainly that doesn't really add up to thoughtful political discourse on the part of either one of us, but I fail to see how I have been "stirring the pot by stalking you" since that and this thread are the entirety of my posting history directed at you. And I also don't see how I was ever on the attack against you, necessitating you to defend yourself from me. If someone disagrees, please enlighten me, because I would be most fascinated to see how the record can be construed to make me look like the jerk here.


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