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Originally posted by Massive84 Few years ago. I remember someone wrote here that normalizing a mix is not very good for the quality of the song. I forgot the reasons. My question is, how bad is it actually and how noticable is it on big systems? Thanks!

its not bad as long as you dont overdo it.

It's not. Unless you're referring to peak normalization.

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Originally posted by Eldritch It's not. Unless you're referring to peak normalization.

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Not sure what that is. But i mean in a sense of removing clipping from the entire mix.

I know that usually stuff is masterd at a level of -0.2 db? Is this done with the help of normalizing?

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It's just amplifying until the loudest point of the track hits 0dB. Quality impact should be neglible

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it will obviously bring up the noise floor, but you gotta do what you gotta do. you will often hear people saying "oh em gee dont do that!!11" on vocals etc., but you will no doubt drop the fader a bit anyway (lowers the noise floor).

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I'd rather have anything I put out playing at it's maximum playback level to begin with, raised noise floor and all (which there shouldn't be much if things were recorded properly to begin with)...as opposed to it entering an audio chain where it's going to have to be bumped anyway to be heard, but now you are elevating the noise floor of THAT chain as well in to the playback path so it can be heard at a SPL. See what I mean?

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Right... that was mastered directly onto a consumer CASSETTE deck as they couldnt afford a DAT machine at the time... all of the 12" copies were pressed up from that cassette master.

My point is, that noise isnt some evil thing in all forms- it could be argued its nicer than a overly clinically clean recording.

try it- if you like how it sounds then keep it. If it doesn't then bin it. As long as you don't do a destructive edit with no back up copy that is...

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Originally posted by Massive84 \Not sure what that is. But i mean in a sense of removing clipping from the entire mix.

I'm not an expert but i don't think you should have any clipping to remove from a mix. find the tracks that are clipping and fix them first.

as for normalizing?. i dont know much but i read that if your gonna normalize you should have a limiter set first?? dont know if that helps you much but maybe someone can add to that

good luck!!

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Originally posted by echosystm it will obviously bring up the noise floor

usually compression or limiting is the better option. beside that you should record always as hot as possible especially when there's an analog signal path in your chain.

I would have thought that compression and limiting are really not at all preferable? Since normalising doesn't affect the dynamic range, only the overall level, all thats happening is that your making the best use possible of the available headroom.
Obviously if what you want is a dynamics limiter then thats a different thing and a limiter/compressor is what you want.
There's no loss of quality either by the way, it should be done wherever you have a signal not using up all its headroom. Normalisation's just a basic tool which should be applied to all audio every time you record something, I'm suprised more people don't understand it

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