that first one is nothing new. when i was on the U.S.S. Charlotte a second class radioman with over six years in lost one and a half fingers and sufferred nerve damage in a sanitary pump, got medically discharged and had to pay back his re-enlistment bonus. f**kin sucks but thats the way it goes. it's a shitty, dangerous and thankless job but you do it anyway.


a similar thing happened to a brand new guy when i was on the Dallas.

With the news of the deserter that was just freed; I hereby bump this.

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The Korean War deserter? He deserved some attention only due to the fact they're some old retirees who remember the angst he caused them by his sheer act of cowardice by deserting, and subsequentially espousing propaganda against his old buddies.

Wounded war vets, retirees, and any other deserving sorts always get f*cked by the current disability system, yours truly included. Thanks for your contribution, but we really don't give a damn about your future when we can no longer use your service. The prevalent attitude.




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Additions to first post:

Iraq war veterans face long-lasting mental health issues, official says

Stipend for Injured Service-Members to Expire

The Private Hell to be a G.I.

Not as a joke but G.I. means "Government Issue". You destroy government property it will come out of you one way or another:
He lost an arm in Iraq; the Army wants money

Update to the story above after people made some phone calls:
Army takes action on soldier

Army relents in Loria case


U.S. deserter numbers reach 5,500

Army Teams Face Surgeon Shortage

Judge Orders Soldier to Report to Iraq

US soldiers would kill civilians, says Marine

U.S. marine who went missing in Iraq is charged with desertion

Bush, Rumsfeld try to soothe angry US troops

US GIs hit Rumsfeld with hard questions

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Last edited by ogvh5150 on Dec-11-2004 at 11:34

I would tend to agree there. I've seen quite a few Iraqi vets coming back mentally unhinged. I'm talking drills sergeants training the next wave in their follow on assignments here to boot.


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Army takes action on soldier

Army relents in Loria case

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This is for those of you have those Made in China "I Support Our Troops" ribbons that you stick on the bumper of your SUV or Import car:

HOMELESS VETS WAIT YEARS FOR AID

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From hero to homeless

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(CBS) For 25-year-old Herold Noel, this winter, like the war, has not been kind, reports CBS News Correspondent Byron Pitts. When "Iraqi Freedom" began, Private First Class Herold Noel was a soldier in the U.S. Army's 3rd Infantry Division, pounding a path into Baghdad. "I fought for this country," he said. "I shed blood for this country. I watched friends die." And like so many, Herold Noel came home a hero, but he wound up homeless. He started living out of the back of his jeep when most of his clothes and all of his military medals were stolen at a homeless shelter "If ever I need to go on an interview, I got my tie, my shirt, so I keep it as clean as I can. "For a job interview?" Pitts asked. "Yeah." When the war in Vietnam washed up the first wave of veterans in need of shelter -- the Department of Veteran Affairs had no homeless programs at all. While today, they offer services in every state. Still, as many as 275,000 veterans will likely sleep out in the cold tonight. "Why weren't all the lessons of Vietnam learned this time? So there wouldn't be any homeless veterans?" Pitts wanted to know. "Most of the veterans that we're seeing have a mental health and a substance abuse problem," said Peter Dougherty of the Department of Veterans Affairs. "Those problems are the underlying factors." Herold was diagnosed with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. Unemployed, married with three kids, he couldn't get a job. "The physical war is over. The mental war has just begun," he said. Pitts asked, "The system is better than it was during Vietnam?" "The system is a whole lot better than it was before," Dougherty said. "But there's a 'but' there, sounds like," Pitts noted. "Well, the 'but' is we have to find them." Filmmaker Dan Lohaus found them on the street and in shelters across the country. Herold Noel was one of them. Lohaus and Pitts watched a film clip. "This is a soldier at his breaking point?" asked Pitts. "This is a solder at rock bottom," the filmmaker said. "I put applications in. I did all that. They lost my application three f^&@# times!" Noel said. This time a city housing agency has given him the runaround yet again. "What are you telling me man? I have three kids out there man! I fought for my country man. My country shouldn't be doing this to me." "It's terrible to know that he's not the only one crying in his car," Lohaus said. "This may sound like an insensitive question, but why should anyone care? About Herold? About the others?" Pitts wanted to know. "These are the folks who are protecting us and we are treating them this way, who is going to sign up? Who is going to do it next time?" Still, Herold Noel is one of the luckier ones. Just recently an anonymous donor heard Herold's story and is paying his rent for a year. Tonight, one Iraq War veteran is off the street. But somewhere soon, another could well take his place. ©MMV, CBS Broadcasting Inc. All Rights Reserved.

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I'm getting out in 20 days. I hope nothing goes wrong....

All warfare is based on deception
Sun Tzu

The more you read and learn, the less your adversary will know
Sun Tzu

Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave
Frederick Douglass

Welcome home.

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Originally posted by Q5echo that first one is nothing new. when i was on the U.S.S. Charlotte a second class radioman with over six years in lost one and a half fingers and sufferred nerve damage in a sanitary pump, got medically discharged and had to pay back his re-enlistment bonus. f**kin sucks but thats the way it goes. it's a shitty, dangerous and thankless job but you do it anyway. a similar thing happened to a brand new guy when i was on the Dallas.

"well, that's the way things are" argument doesnt justify anything. this makes it pretty clear how much the govt & military "support the troops."
first they're going lie to them and make them give up their lives for a false cause and then they're not even going to compensate for their disabilities.