I'm appalled by the fact that you base your opinions about people's enjoyment of the night solely on the quality of their drugs.

I'd really love it if drugs were to fuck off from the club scene entirely, then only the people who really enjoy the music would be there, not wankers who enjoy arps and fat kick drums when they are off their nut, and listen to pop music during the day.

Though I must admit, as you said, drugs (vs alcohol only) can add a significant amount of atmosphere to events . On the other hand, when a particularly strong batch goes around, they seem to do the opposite - everyone gets involved in whacked-out conversations about utter crap with one another and ignores the music altogether.

I think it would be more accurate to say the 90% of people are on drugs at trance events, not 50%.

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Last edited by Domesticated on Jan-04-2008 at 16:39

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Originally posted by Beat Blog I'm appalled by the fact that you base your opinions about people's enjoyment of the night solely on the quality of their drugs. I'd really love it if drugs were to fuck off from the club scene entirely, then only the people who really enjoy the music would be there, not wankers who enjoy arps and fat kick drums when they are off their nut, and listen to pop music during the day.

You clearly haven’t paid any attention to the way I have expressed that its 'most people'. Of course the music is what makes a night good - but are you seriously trying to deny that some people wouldn't go if there weren’t drugs around? You live in Melbourne so perhaps it's different at your end. I doubt it though.

Any your ideal of losing drugs so that only people who were really serious about the music were at nights is great until the reality that clubs lose money due to empty dancefloors and shut down kicks in.

Please don't be appalled by my post – that’s a very strong emotion to have about someone’s casual observation

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Originally posted by JonDC You clearly haven’t paid any attention to the way I have expressed that its 'most people'. Of course the music is what makes a night good - but are you seriously trying to deny that some people wouldn't go if there weren’t drugs around? You live in Melbourne so perhaps it's different at your end. I doubt it though.

Some people?

Without drugs, crowds of 20,000 would be reduced to 5,000, and the events would last for 4 hours, rather than 8 or 12. People would leave after a few hours, too tired or lazy to go on. The "stadium rave" as we know it would be dead. As you said, clubs would also start shutting their doors.

I think this would actually be great. Huge, stadium raves are fun, but imagine if instead of having twenty shit clubs in town, you had two quality ones playing top-notch music all the time. The crowd would become so much more intimate and connected, just like back when clubs like Wigan Casino and Paradise Garage were open, it was like a family, you knew everyone in the place, every week!

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Originally posted by Beat Blog Some people? Without drugs, crowds of 20,000 would be reduced to 5,000, and the events would last for 4 hours, rather than 8 or 12. People would leave after a few hours, too tired or lazy to go on. The "stadium rave" as we know it would be dead. As you said, clubs would also start shutting their doors. I think this would actually be great. Huge, stadium raves are fun, but imagine if instead of having twenty shit clubs in town, you had two quality ones playing top-notch music all the time. The crowd would become so much more intimate and connected, just like back when clubs like Wigan Casino and Paradise Garage were open, it was like a family, you knew everyone in the place, every week!

I can see your point, but I'm still not really talking about the stadium 'tiesto in concert' raves - even the normal sized, 1.5 thousand people clubs will be affected. I think its important to have a decent venue with a big sound system and lazors and good DJ's who demand high wages - it definatly adds to the night, and if numbers dropped massivly, clubs wouldnt be able to afford that sort of thing.

I'd agree that the emergance of niche nights would be pretty cool, but I would miss the superclubs

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Originally posted by JonDC I can see your point, but I'm still not really talking about the stadium 'tiesto in concert' raves - even the normal sized, 1.5 thousand people clubs will be affected. I think its important to have a decent venue with a big sound system and lazors and good DJ's who demand high wages - it definatly adds to the night, and if numbers dropped massivly, clubs wouldnt be able to afford that sort of thing. I'd agree that the emergance of niche nights would be pretty cool, but I would miss the superclubs

I'd miss superclubs too, I like them.

However, have you ever been to see a classic or cult DJs where a lot of the crowd is sober? The atmosphere can be amazing, because sober people cheer and go more nuts than drugged people, who tend to get lost in their own little worlds.

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From what I've heard, the quality of E has been shit for years now. I don't think it's a particularly new "problem".

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ferry corsten shit on tiesto here in atlanta. although the actual DJ and music played where a big part, all the people at tiesto where sketch as fuck and trashy. at ferry it was at a nice venue and all the people were sober or drunk. no E = a much better time.

i dnt take drugs but in the clubs over here 90% would be taking them and dont have a clue about proper edm,all think scott project and lisa lashes r the best djs 2 grace the decks.if drugs were takin away no1 would go 2 clubs.ive no problem with ppl taking drugs and it would be the end of a dance scene over here if they were taken away

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J From what I've heard, the quality of E has been shit for years now. I don't think it's a particularly new "problem".

that's why i stopped dropping tabs, pills just aren't what they used to be

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Ive noticed that since the summer alot of clubs in Belfast have simply 'dried up'. And with this, there is a more tense atmosphere which is so noticeable.

As pills are crap these days, get yourself some pure MDMA

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