I stand by what I said - the same people here who defend Iran are the same ones who would have defended Hitler.
Comparisons between the current Iran regime and Nazi Germany is nothing new.

With Iran's leaders still around we all lose.

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Originally posted by CHRles I stand by what I said - the same people here who defend Iran are the same ones who would have defended Hitler. Comparisons between the current Iran regime and Nazi Germany is nothing new. With Iran's leaders still around we all lose.

Thus, invoking Hitler, you automatically lose your argument, if you can even call it an argument.

I want to see sources. If you want me to take you seriously. I need something of substance or else I'm just gonna keep flaming you.

With Mr Bush and his banking overseers in office, the ENTIRE WORLD loses. Notice how we withdrew from Kyoto treaty to protect multi-national corp profits.

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"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." -George Orwell

Iran or osama bin laden can NEVER take away our freedoms. This argument is a lie! We are fighting terrorism to protect our freedoms? NO, the war on terrorism is a war against those who fight what they perceive as an oppressor. Only our own government can take away our rights, and that is EXACTLY whats happening. But here are people like you focused on an issue that serves as nothing but a distraction from the real enemy. The Federal Reserve private banks who control our country. Democracy? Republic? My friend, these constitutional principles are eroding before our very eyes, and here we are being deceived into believing our enemy is a jihad fighter.

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Originally posted by Krypton I want to see sources. If you want me to take you seriously. I need something of substance or else I'm just gonna keep flaming you.

Shut up already with your I want to see sources crap, terrorist lover!
How hard is it for you to go on google, read books from the experts and such? Do you really need me to do the job for you, little kid? You seem to post links to loads of garbage on here. Why don't you take the initiative and look up something real, of substance, for a change?

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Originally posted by CHRles Shut up already with your I want to see sources crap, terrorist lover! How hard is it for you to go on google, read books from the experts and such? Do you really need me to do the job for you, little kid? You seem to post links to loads of garbage on here. Why don't you take the initiative and look up something real, of substance, for a change?

Well, the burden of evidence falls on you. They are your arguments, so it is your responsibility to substantial them. I am not here to find evidence for your arguments, I find evidence for MY arguments.

So according to you, I should find the evidence for your stupid arguments for war? Give me a fucking break.

If you can't support your views with nothing more than mindless rhetoric, take that shit somewhere else then. But if you want a productive debate, like I said, provide sources, evidence, SOMETHING, to support your views. Give me something from academia, something from a notable expert, SOMETHING. Because I'm just gonna keep slamming every one of your useless arguments down until you stop.

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Dude, you currently live in Tampa. I lived there myself for 4 years, graduated from USF. While I was there, we had a professor called Sami Al Arian. People were suspicious of him having ties to terrorist activities. He claimed he was innocent, and of course terrorist lovers were out and about to support him...until it was discovered he was not only linked to a terrorist organization, but was actually at the head of a terrorist cell.
Look it up if you're too ignorant to know this. While you're at it, look up how many things Iran is suspected of being involved in.

Fuckin terrorist lovers and the crap they write. Even telling people that Osama Bin Laden can't take away your freedom. Tell that to the people who lost their loved ones in NYC and DC, and travelling on those flights.

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Originally posted by CHRles Dude, you currently live in Tampa. I lived there myself for 4 years, graduated from USF. While I was there, we had a professor called Sami Al Arian. People were suspicious of him having ties to terrorist activities. He claimed he was innocent, and of course terrorist lovers were out and about to support him...until it was discovered he was not only linked to a terrorist organization, but was actually at the head of a terrorist cell. Look it up if you're too ignorant to know this. While you're at it, look up how many things Iran is suspected of being involved in. Fuckin terrorist lovers and the crap they write. Even telling people that Osama Bin Laden can't take away your freedom. Tell that to the people who lost their loved ones in NYC and DC, and travelling on those flights.

Another detraction. That has nothing to do with the debate we were just having...

And, here you go invoking 911 as an argument. Really sad. Osama bin Laden could NEVER force us to give up our rights. It is our own government who has that power. Listen. Hitler invaded other countrys to and did take away their freedoms. Are you saying OBL could come to America, and take away our freedoms? HELL NO. You want to talk about the people who died in 911?? What about the people who have died because of what we did?? Over 100,000 Iraqis have died since 2003. More than ONE MILLION have fled the country. So much for peace, freedom, and all the crap the Bush admin spews to convince us they are right. I thank god that the American people for the most part see through this Bullshit.

OBL's mission is not to take away American freedoms or take over America, though that is what the neocons or Bush would want you to believe. OBL mission is to force western powers from interfering in the Muslim lands. Read his damn mission statement. You seem to be an somewhat educated, as I know USF very well. Sun tzu said over 2000 years ago in "Art of War" to know thy enemy. I suggest you do a very thorough in depth OBJECTIVE study of the history of the Middle East, then examine the points of view of Islamism and the fundamentalism. You'll find it had a lot in common with for example the Nazi's fight against foreign domination by the Versailles Treaty. In comparison, OBL fights against foreign domination of Muslim lands. NOT a hatred of America just because we are freedom loving infidels. IT GOES WAY DEEPER THAN THAT.

Put aside your bias or assumptions, examine it all, PLEASE...

If you have any point in my arguments which you want me to substantial, I will by all means do it, with outside sources. But if you can't do the same thing, why should I even think about taking you seriously. I challenge you to pick any part of my arguments, and I will support it with evidence.

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Quirk's exception!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally posted by CHRles Even telling people that Osama Bin Laden can't take away your freedom.

How can Osama Bin Laden take away our freedoms?

George, go talk to your Muslim Brotherhood friends

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Originally posted by Krypton With Mr Bush and his banking overseers in office, the ENTIRE WORLD loses. Notice how we withdrew from Kyoto treaty to protect multi-national corp profits.

Bush didn't back off Kyoto you idiot, the 105th Congress did in 1998.

the Dean of Columbia U loses the argument.



idiot.

Eisenhower would have kicked this guy's ass up and down Pennsylvania Ave.